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Billie keith, your fragile ego is on full display.

You clearly do not understand stock blank layout.

How lucky we are to have a book read expert with no real world experience such as yourself grace our forum with your presence.

I'm off to do some stock work today, not that you would have any actual knowledge of such work, besides what you read in a book.

Huh???

So which way was your walnut cut BrentD? And did you bother to actually read what craigd said?

The illustration shows four different methods. And it also shows an incorrect depiction of rift sawing.

Oh wait... now BrentD will go back to pretending to IGNORE my posts.

It's pretty clear just who does not have an understanding of grain structure and milling logs into lumber Queen Stevie. I did not know we were discussing stock blank layout, (actually, we were not discussing stock blank layout. You felt the pathetic need to pivot there to run away from your stupid assertions) but I have frequently posted on that subject without anyone disputing my words. It ain't rocket science, even though quite a few people produce or buy blanks that are poorly laid out.

Oh yes, that stock work that you claim to be doing today, while you are actually here being an idiot... who will you be farming out the actual work to. I hope it's someone with a brain.

You dumbass Queen Stevie, that end cut cold have come from a log that was either slab or quarter sawn. But it could not correctly be called rift sawn, no matter how pathetic and desperate you are to prove me wrong.

Are you surprised now?

We are not surprised to see how ignorant and pathetic you are, or that BrentD is still responding to posts he claims to IGNORE. Two of a kind. No wonder you two found each other and are so compatible.

Do what?

I think if you look through your stash it'll be a mix of cuts. What your picture calls 'live' sawn, I think most folks will just call plain sawn. They set it on the saw bed just once, then keep taking off slices till there's no more yeild.

That's why folks sort endlessly through stacks of wood. If you brought your wood in bulk from a mill, say for a future cabinet project, I believe you are going to have to live with loss due to clean up cuts.

On a side note, I edited my first thought. There seems to be a saw mill definition of the sawing process, and there is a separate description of the grain flow through a piece of board stock. My point of view is of the final blank, not the process it took to get there.

I think I've mentioned before, when I've gone after a log with a quarter sawn hope in mind. I split the piece so it follows the grain, then it's slow going clean up of wedges, shimmed through the planer, and on the band saw. I'd much rather end up with three or four nice pieces, than ten or twelve average pieces.

Craig, he sawed it as shown for riff and quarters. I watched him do most of it. All the local sawyers will do that. No big deal.

I have the good fortune to own enough acres of forest that I have all the hardwood I could ever want. I have them reduced to lumber whenever I need it and have it cut however I want. I sell some as well.

That's a very nice option, no doubt about it. Don't mind me, my experiences are skewed towards digging through stacks of wood just to cut some piece out of the middle of a board, or considering a bit before making the first cut through a raw stump.

There use to be a standard of the following. Plain was 0-30 degrees grain growth rings to the face of the board. Rift was considered 30-60 degrees. Quarter sawn was 60-90 degrees. But to be fair trees are rarely straight without taper and will exhibit several of these features along their length. A rift board can become a quarter sawn or a plain dawn board from end to end. The less change the more stable the board as a rule.

Blanks would seem like they would be so short that they would not vary from end to end but many have major changes in less than a foot. If bought several blanks when first starting out which were reversed so that the wrist was rift or even almost plain dawn and the butt end was quarter. Sometimes you have enough wood to reverse layout, sometimes you don�t. Then they become fore end blanks often. Every stock seems to have good points and bad points. As long as I can get straight grain flow in the wrist I�m happy. The problem with most saw men is they want maximum yield with minimal time and effort where we would rather have one perfect blank than several just ok to semi fancy blanks. Back when I was turning fancy pens on my lathe I learned that often a board could produce one one premium pen blank at the cost of several average ones. But one premium blank is so much better that any number of lesser blanks. Gunstocks are the same. One great or no great ones.

I went with quarter sawed English walnut. It has lots of black streaks on both sides of the blank. Not as much figure as slab sawed, but no surprises and hopefully lest resistant to shrinkage and any sort of warp. I bought it from Cecil so it�s been drying in the Las Vegas desert since 2004.