Many years ago I took my middle son to the boot in Missouri for his first duck hunt. I took a Lefever HE that I was fond of shooting at the time. The guide gave me grief for bringing such a outdated gun. In two day I killed nine ducks with 12 shots. Two were very decent shots but the rest were gimmes as far as I was concerned. By the end of the second day the guide had shut up about the outdated double. Another hunter not with us had shot almost two full boxes of shells and as far as I could tell had not scratched a single feather. He did have a nice looking modern semi automatic in the proper black plastic finish. Shooters like that make a guides day very long and tend to be lousy tippers.