doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com OT: At the risk of stepping in it....

You guys are taking all the fun out of this disease.

It's very contagious.

So, if you live in the sticks, and take minimal precautions, you likely won't get it.

You live in a hi-rise?
Better be careful for a while yet.

Someone invites you to a party? Politely decline.

Or, if you are under 55 and in good health, ignore the whole thing, perhaps get it and get immunity.

It doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Pre-symptomatic people spread it.
Some healthy people, and young people, have died from it.

It really isn't a completely individual choice.

I've had pneumonia.
No thanks.

I'm easing back into things in a couple weeks.
I wanted 2 weeks of no flare ups before I showed back up at work.

I get it that not everyone can be so laissez-faire.

CZ, some young and healthy people die from the annual influenza. But we don't stop life for that. Statistically speaking, based on the incomplete data of who has contacted it and who has died from it the official numbers for under 18 are 0 out of 100,000.

As I suggested in my first post, it was the fact that pre (and non) symptomatic people spread it that caused the panic in the health care community.

There is credible data out there that is suggesting that the actual infections are at least double the known case count and could be as high as 10x.

Mr. Brown:

As a son of Canada, perhaps your tolerance of "petty tyrants" is more fully developed than mine. Americans in general and this American in particular have very little patience for such people. To a fault, I am genetically ingrained to almost-rabidly resent and resist such people. My family and ancestors have been involved in the fight against the forces of tyranny since the very beginnings of the history of this country. My earliest-known ancestor arrived here in the 1630s and... it is not going to be on my watch that those precious freedoms and liberties, that I have known and enjoyed (wallowed-in, actually!) throughout my life, would be surrendered without a fight-to-the-death if necessary. I consider these things to be my most crucial, critical, and ultimate birthright, and I suspect that I am not alone in that deeply-held commitment.

I am happy that you can so-easily trust the "experts" that help guide and control your populace. Many (if not most) of the experts here in this country seem to be badly compromised for a number of reasons, and their "highly educated" advice often conflicts with many of my deeply-held values. I am immediately suspicious of any edict that attempts to curtail any of those hard-won freedoms, such as I am now with these "lockdowns". I am fervently hopeful that how all the people currently in power (state governers mostly) react to these challenges are long-remembered.

Yup, I thought this was an infectious disease concern, not opportunities for bureaucrats that're "experts" on quality of life.

This will do wonders for medicare costs for the next ten years. the NY metro area includes parts of NJ and Connecticut. Think what you want.

It could easily become a fatal misunderstanding to entertain the belief that this virus can be compared to the annual flu.

People are free to believe what they want, and act accordingly.

With that, I'm done.

Lloyd, from the evidence of their efforts to find solutions since it started, I am confident that none of our political leaders would risk the consequences of putting the gross national product ahead of the quality of Canadian life.

I appreciate American concerns for their unprecedented---chaotic is not too strong a word---erosion of representation. Our system allows popular will to change governments when they don't have the Commons' confidence.

Canadians don't have conversations about special privilege at the top, executive authority and the federal governor being above the law. Getting the sobs out of there is as simple as a writ, most powerful influence in a democracy.

Mr. Brown: If that is so, then a "writ" should be a simple solution for lots of your problems up there. Sadly, I must confess serious ignorance about the subtleties of Canadian governance. It has taken me most of my adult life to even begin to grasp the, indeed, chaotic components of our own democratic republic.

CZ: I'm grateful for your input here and I certainly don't want anybody to have such a potentially fatal misunderstanding. There are more than enough reasons to be cautious about this bedamnedable virus.

The worst (& perhaps best?) part of this whole process it that it has acted to "tip the hand" of so-many politicians as to what their true beliefs and values are, and for some (many?) of us it's painful to watch and then live through it.