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#571491 05/08/20 10:39 AM
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Good reading and relevant to the Churchill discussion

The Badminton Magazine of Sports and Pastimes, Game-shooting and Shooting Schools, August, 1906
https://books.google.com/books?id=vFEhAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA274&lpg

The high tower at Charles Lancaster's Shooting Grounds at Stonebridge Park, from An Illustrated Treatise on the Art of Shooting


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It appears there were trolls back in 1889 wink
https://books.google.com/books?id=cBGMJk...p;q&f=false

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this english style of captive bird shooting has always been repulsive...reminds one of the decadent romans and their "games", where helpless humans and other animals were butchered for "sport"...


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Originally Posted By: ed good
this english style of captive bird shooting has always been repulsive...reminds one of the decadent romans and their "games", where helpless humans and other animals were butchered for "sport"...

Its for food Ed.


Also, because of how property rights developed in the U.K., and the relatively small size of the island, there is no such thing as wild game hunting like we ( well some of us anyway) do here in the US.


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Eddie- I've never done driven bird shooting in "Limey-Land" nor never will, even if I should win a powerball jackpot, But I've seen many videos, and I'll tell you what- those tall Roosters going like a Mach 4 jet fighter at cloud bustin' altitudes sure look like a challenge for any top rated wingshot to hit. The land and the game thereon belong to Lord Muckinfutch and he invites his friends to the shoots- and the retrieved birds distributed, some possible sold at market. Not quite the same as his Lordshipness raising beef cattle for the market (in terms of how the cattle are killed, as opposed to the pheasants, but the end result means food on tables for folks- I'd like to try it with my "pet" 30" Full Choked M12 Tournament Grade solid rib shotgun.




The Limeys can have their "matched pair" of London bests, with a loader, they have 4 shots at their disposal. I'd leave the 3 shot plug in the M12 and if I could pick the shell and load for those "Archie-Angels" it would be the Old Federal Premium 2&3/4" copper plated No. 5 shot 1&1/4 ounces- darn shame Federal stopped making that years ago.

I had those loads and the same M12 out in MT. Oct. 1987 on the Big Horn River area, near the Yellowtail Dam--Sunday, 2 Labs and an old HS pal, tons of open lands, no other hunters, wind came up after lunch not uncommon out there) and Bob's 2 Labs: Mork and Mindy, boosted out a big old rooster downwind from where I was waiting- he gained altitude and speed as he approached, I swung the barrel waaay ahead of Mr. Cock-bird, Bung, Belly, Beak and Bang- and he crumpled up like a cheap cardboard suitcase in a hail storm. Those Federal loads were something else indeed. Wonder if the Limeys have similar shot loads?? RWTF


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"beware the man wid ah pump gon...specially if hits ah model 12"...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Fox, Remember, they had a world dominating EMPIRE during the early industrial age.
So, there's...considerable?... wealth concentrated into a relatively small group of people.
Businesses pop up to help you spend it.

Worldwide, a good shot taken is a good shot taken.
You still have to hit it.
Doing it for the crowd is doubly fine!

I don't think Ed is capable of understanding that his imagination is filled with inaccurate ideas about shooting.


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That dude on the left is holding a shotgun that is not only long-barreled but also with a long LOP. Take a close look.

SRH


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well, in mah imagination..

shootin is shootin, huntin is huntin...an well, killin is killin...

ah have ah problem wid does who kill fur jes the pleasure uv hit...dat may be the reason, why kinder an gentler shooters invented first the glass ball, filled wid fedders, an den later, the clay bird...

the great thang bout clay birds, is dat de dont bleed...an de dont suffer an fly off in pain an die slowly in agony, cause sum fool thinks its fun to shoot at em as they fly by...

course, dats jes mah inaccurate magination workin, don ja no...

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Shuddup, ed.

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