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It hurts to look at them. I swear they just keep getting worse.

O'le Ed1 has bid on a gun of mine. Should I pull the auction? Maybe someone will out bid him. :rolleyes:

I guess what most troubling to me at least is that he continues to find buyers that are either ok with his "restorations" or more than likely not knowledgeable enough to know any better. If he did not have buyers he would not continue but with guns that are being sold on a somewhat regular basis why would he stop?
Our distaste for this treatment of guns is not a universal view evidently
Like Steinfeld used to say
"Who are these people ?"

Battle...what is it that he is bidding on? You do have the right to end it.

He is bidding on many guns and wins a lot of them. Does anyone know him well enough to stop him?

I recently purchased a un-messed with relatively new gun from him. He mis-represented it but I figured he would and didn't get burnt at the purchase price we struck. As suspected it arrived with what he called scuff's on the grip wood finish. I measured two of the deepest at 0.220 and 0.202" open to raw wood, looked like someone tried to start to cut the grip cap off with a hack saw. He does not care about what folks think. I shared web page links with him. He just doesn't care. I guess as long as he's closing auctions he won't change, maybe never will.

eightbore

I understand the desire to stop him, but he has not done anything that gives anyone a legit reason to stop him. Bad taste, poor decisions, B. S. descriptions, tacky "restorations", bogous colors and all the rest are not a proper reason to stop him. As long as he follows the auction house rules he can go on.

Fraud is had to prove and he does state that his wares have been "exrertly restored". It is only your opinion, and the rest of the sane world, that his restorations are old guns that have been given the hot wax on a turd treatment. Shinny, but they stink.

Look at it this way. He takes old guns with no finish, guns that have very little value and refreshes them. They are still just old guns in bad shape, they just look better to the untrained eye. A lot like makeup, on old hookers, in dark bars. At the same time he is a one man show of the things that we are trying to educate others on this BBs to see and avoid. His tasteless colors are so bad that they have become the standard that other tourch colors can be judge by.

From accounts of how he deals on a personal level he would not get my money if pigs learned how to fly. I bet that I have more unscrewed up guns in my gun room than he has ever sold and I do not need trashed, worn out guns to try to fix up. I already have 20 or so nice guns needing a proper restoration or just a decent amount of cleaning and care to ever buy a gun from him.

Hi did the same thing to the Remington F grade. It did not sell when it was original (the receiver that is) so he torched it. It is on Gun's America also. Buttstock is not original to it also.

This is exactly what I ranted on in another thread. Too many amateurs are doing CCH these days and in my opinion devalue a vintage gun. Now is there anyway to remove the color that they put in and re-do it?

I'm not sure where in NH Francistown is, but I asked to go see his stuff awhile ago, or just meet somewhere with a gun I was inerested in, but he was very clear we had to go through the two way shipping,even though i could drive there easily enough...he didn't seem a particulary friendly chap.
I also E'd him for contact info for the MasterGunmith Mr Ed Landers..but got no reply
Franc