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How difficult? How do you go about bringing one over? I bring from UK, but never from France.
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It’s gotten really tough. I was having a problem with carriers being unwilling to transport over a decade ago, and that was before the French government got so heavy handed about being involved in exports of firearms. The UN small arms treaty that is but a liberal wet dream in this country, is the actual law in France. God help you if there is an ivory bead, a rosewood buttplate, an inlay of Madagascar weasel sphincter, or, whatever the prohibited material du jour might be.
There is nothing in Europe I want bad enough, today, to attempt an import.
Nothing.
Best, Ted
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Having brought two guns and two sets of barrels in from France over the years, with the change in French gun laws I don't even look at NaturaBuy any more.
Mike
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I like having to sign a statement that I will not use the imported gun to make a nuclear device or weapon of mass destruction. Talk about red tape. Or maybe I just have the wrong apps loaded onto my cell phone.
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Having brought two guns and two sets of barrels in from France over the years, with the change in French gun laws I don't even look at NaturaBuy any more.
Mike Mike--I remember how badly you wanted those guns. Glad you got them before gun laws changed!
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I absolutely love them, Larry. Perfect match for me.
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I can't believe the Madagascar Weasel Sphincter is now on the list? What crap!!! I may have to hide a couple of my guns?
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Due to relatives and connections...I have the opportunity to get one (1) gun out of France at some point in time. This sold for about 800 euro a couple of years ago...If I can track it down it will be THE gun.   It has a certain advantage in that it has some gold inlay on it. If I ever go hunting with Ted, I'll take this gun. You see, gold on guns make Ted upchuck. While he's on his fours talking Irish (O-rourk, O-ralph), I'll be getting all the shots. 
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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Careful what you wish for. What gun you choose to miss your birds with is no concern of mine.
I’ll be interested to hear how you pull it off. Don’t even think you will show up in France and bring it home with you.
Best, Ted
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Argo those barrels look to be a mile long. A lot of it may be camera angle but they must be 32".
Nice gun but why does it turn your head so?
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/
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Top lever hammer gun with Damascus tubes. If it is French or Belgian, it is a bit of an odd bird. The French moved away from Damascus a long time before the English. When you see Damascus tubes on a French gun it is usually on an older opening system than a top lever hammer gun.
Really neat. Love to see Gene try a couple of Ruffed Grouse flushes with a hammer gun.
Best, Ted __________________________________________ If Lonny had enough shots in him to settle the DTs and got his heater smoked before the flush, he could try too.
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FUSIL DE CHASSE à percussion centrale, chiens extérieurs, deux coups, calibre 12-75 (18). Canons damas juxtaposés de 76,5 cm de Didier Drevet. Platines gravées " L. Chalet à Saint Etienne ". Crosse en noyer quadrillé, marquée sur une pièce de laiton aux armes couronnées de Poncins. Dans un étui jambon en cuir " Count de Poncins ". Fabriqué en 1887. N°5275 - 1887. Poids : 3,370 Kg.
Shotgun, center-fire, hammer gun, double trigger, 12 gauge 3" chambers. SxS Damascus 30" barrels by Didier Drevet. Side plate engraved "L. Chalet at Saint Etienne." Walnut Stock checkered marked on a brass plate with the crowned arms of Poncins. In a chestnut leather case "Count of Poncins." Made in 1887. 7 lbs 7 oz.
It's black powder proofed. I think what appeals to me so much is the simplicity and beauty of the lines. It has Damascus (check) and is a hammer gun (check). It's also a Saint Etienne gun with 30" barrels and 3" original chambers. With the weight it had to be a pigeon gun of sorts (note flat file rib). Saint Etienne is close to Saint Chamon, where my wife's family lives - almost home. I'm sure I'd find a way to shoot low pressure modern loads with it. Didier-Drevet was a legendary barrel maker.
Last edited by Argo44; 04/09/20 10:39 AM.
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Those sound like all the right reasons to me.
I once spent 4 yrs tracking a Joseph Lang double rifle for lesser reasons than those. It was worth the hunt.
Good luck.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/
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