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I was happily surprised that for the first time ever I had the right tool to take out the bushings and they weren't stuck! Of course I still have to take it all apart as the back of the broken pin fell back down into the action. I have yet to have a bushed pin system work the way it is supposed to, either the bushing won't come out without buggering it or the pins on the tool. If you get the bushing out the back of the broken pin is riveted so you can't get it out or as in this case it falls in and you still have to disassemble the action. I have never seen a hammer with an integral pin broken. ymmv

Sometimes you wonder what the maker was thinking. I�ve seen guns with disc set strikers that the tumbler hits the edge of the threaded disc, beating the edge over, and virtually insuring nobody will be able to remove it when it is time.
I�ve removed the discs from my single gun that has them, no issues, never had a broken pin but, I have spares for when that day comes.
I�ve seen two integral hammer/striker guns with broken pins, and pictures of a few others. No thanks.

Best,
Ted

No issues whatsoever with integral strikers. I�ve owned a lot of them. I�ve seen a lot of them too. In my experience, it�s pretty rare to have a striker fail. If it does fail....it�s a relatively easy fix. I�ve also owned quite a few guns with disc set strikers...I�ve NEVER had to change one. The only thing I have ever had to do was remove a striker on a AyA #2 and reshape it because it was causing the gun to hang up after being fired. Easy.
So, history and analytics being what they are....I�m good with integral strikers or bushed...makes zero difference to me.

I saw a �repair� inflected on an integral striker gun that almost made me puke. A hole was drilled in the hammer, and it was threaded, for a metric Allen head cap screw, which, was profiled until it fit the hole in the breech face.

Well, it worked.

Best,
Ted

There are some guns where the hammer was drilled for the firing pin to be threaded in when built.

The other side to disc set strikers is that they pretty much eliminate a pierced primer venting gas into the action and blowing off a good sized piece of the head of the stock.

Said gun was a detachable lock Westley.

The other side wasn�t drilled. It didn�t have spare locks, either.

Best,
Tec

I have only twice removed the bushed firing pins from a Guns, my Belgian Louis Christophe by Jules Bury and my Purdey. In both cases it was more out of curiosity than need

The reality for me has been bushed pins are neat, but I have only once had an issue with box locks hammer pins failing, which JJ at Champlain�s fixed easily

It�s likely all academic, and two trigger double guns are extraordinarily reliable. But, a buddy had a Webley 700 fail on the opening shot of pheasant season, and the gun was sidelined for the rest of the year.

I think the disc set striker thing is more important in a boxlock then, say, a Holland patern sidelock. It is easy to replace a striker in the sidelock, hand detachable lock or otherwise.

Buddy had a Benelli to use. I would have spares, too. But, I could have fixed my Uggy at the truck, or, at home.

Best,
Ted

Gee Gladys, I should think that you could have just crawled right through the firing pin holes to have a look-see.

I had an integral striker break on a Sauer, of all things. Whether one likes them or not, quality German guns don't break very often. Del Whitman got that one back up and running in fairly short order.