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This has always been one of my pet peeves also. There are many westerns I otherwise enjoy which show a blatant disregard for historical accuracy when it comes to firearms. Of course, many westerns are more about mythology than fact, but I've never understood how John Ford, and John Wayne for that matter, both of whom had such an obvious love for the West, could pay so little attention to such essential props. The number of Winchester 1892s and 1894s being wielded by cowboy and Indian alike in tales supposedly taking place in the late 1860s and 70s is amazing. I suspect the practical explanation is that there were so many of those rifles and Colt SAAs lying around the studios, and so few cap and ball revolvers and other guns with lower production numbers, and where manufacture ceased at a much earlier date. A much wider variety of accurate reproductions has probably helped matters in more recent years. It makes you appreciate all the more the movies that do pay attention to the guns, although they are few and far between. TT


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That movie was just on my College TV station and I noticed that. Pretty cool.

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One of my favorite all time movies for gun watching is Zardoz with Sean Connery. That scene where there are guns being dropped down to the enforcers from the spacecraft is something else. Also Sean Connerys "carry gun" is a Webley automatic revolver which is something you don't see every day.
Of course we shouldn't overlook the classic Winchester 73 movie.
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Watched THE WIND AND THE LION the other night. Brian keith plays Teddy Roosevelt and he is in the middle of dealing with Winchester on a custom M1895, .405 Winchester, very amusing and accurate. Directed by John Milius, he knows his stuff.

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City Heat with Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds takes places in Kansas City in the early to mid 1930S. Movie was made around the early 80s. Eastwood plays a cop and Reynolds plays a private eye, former friends, now uneasy allies. There is a scene where the bad guys are trying to get Reynolds. Lead is flying all over the place and Eastwood is standing next to his car watching all of the excitement when a shot comes his way. He reaches in his car and pulls out a Winchester Model 97 pump riot gun. Starts working the trombone and trigger and pointing in the general direction. Bad guy gets a lot of shot in his hind end. He ends up in some old sawbone's office, who has a fondness for the hard stuff. Reynolds and Eastwood show up and pour ether on the guy's posterior and they light a match to get a confession. Model 97 riot model and Krags showed up in a movie with Sean Connery, Candace Bergen, and Brian Keith called The Wind and The Lion. Very good movie.


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So if you guys know so much about guns in the movies, how many bullet loops did Roy Rogers' favorite holster rig have?

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Ah to heck with Hollywood BUT the History Channel!!!! The big shoot out after the Northfield Raid and some of them even had Winchesters!!! NOOO they didn't!!! Those Minnesota farmers could care less about a pip squeek cartridged lever action they all had Kentucky rifles or big bored single shots!!! I can excuse Hollywood but the History Channel come on!!! Winchester the 'Gun that won the west" No it didn't!!!
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