We had one guy on this board a few years ago- about five people wanted a gun that was up for bid on one of the gun sites. Myself included. But because this guy got the bid, he had to be the one to get the gun. The seller went through four or five bad credit cards from this goof ball and we all waited two weeks while this clown tried to buy this gun he couldn't afford. The seller finally got so perturbed he refused to sell the gun to anyone. I offered to pay for the gun with a postal money order or cashier's check before he sent the gun. But by then he was too ticked off. It's like the saying goes- If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on the porch.