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When you publicly call for disarming law abiding citizens, and say there should be bans on entire classes of legal firearms, you are absolutely showing us that you do not support our Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms.

When you post such nonsense in black and white, and then claim to support the Constitution, then you demonstrate to us that you are totally dishonest, or mentally ill... or both. It has never made much sense to debate with a liar or a mentally ill person like you ed.

Go study the 2008 Heller and 2010 McDonald Supreme Court decisions to see how they ruled on the matter of affirming the 2nd Amendment and the Individual Right. Concentrate especially on the McDonald decision since they answered your question. Your opinion on the matter is both incorrect and irrelevant.

By the way, both cases were 5-4 decisions. It was anti-gun Liberal Left Democrat nominees who voted against us, and they ignored the original intent of the framers to reach their decisions. Some of them obviously lied when they took their oath, and they lied under oath during their Senate confirmation hearings when questioned about support for the 2nd Amendment. Why don't Democrats call to impeach them?

Be nicer to people with special needs like Special' Ted, Steve'O and nasty mouth bOb.

I need to realize it's not their fault.

The Alabama skally'wag with O'Relliy syndrome can just kiss my Tennessee ...

Did this require rational thought on your part, or intentional deception?

Maybe, it's some to do about messaging since 'legislation' is too hard to do? Ponder why someone would demonize a number, say ten, only if it were strung together in a sentence with, magazine. Or, why would someone insist on characterizing wild game as songbirds, and give other wildlife human sounding names such as 'bernie'?

So, ya wants ta dump yer inventory quick like, eh? Maybe, that tingle up your leg is hop'in fer change, not feel'in the north winds, huh?

Keith'e hysteria and endless repetitions are a curse on this site. The endless claim that Democrats want to abolish private firearms ownership is the NRA's oldest lie. There are many forms of "infringement" on citizen's right to own guns. They have withstood legal challenges.The second amendment does not mean that just anyone has the right to own firearms. Keith, and all those who think like him have said, in effect, there is no way to stop mass shootings; they're just the price we have to pay in order keep our AR-15s. I'd like to avoid politics on this site, but I'm not willing to listen to Keith's crap without responding. Those of you who resent all this talk, get Keith to shut up and no one will feel obliged to respond to his drivel.

Truth be known most mass shooting have occurred by Democrats. I'd agree that anyone stupid enough to be a Democrat should not own a firearm.

Bill your continued denial that the Democrat party has moved towards socialism/communism is a blight on America.

This playground needs a grown up with a whistle.
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"When you publicly call for disarming law abiding citizens, and say there should be bans on entire classes of legal firearms, you are absolutely showing us that you do not support our Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms."

keet: first, i never called for the involuntary disarming of law abiding citizens, which would never work...what i am calling for is a discussion of the pros and cons of mass voluntary disarmament by law abiding citizens...

second, never called for the banning of entire classes of firearms...what i do suggest is discussion of the pros and cons of the restriction of certain classes of firearms, at the state and local level...

for, unlike you apparently, i believe any federal legislation that infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, is a violation of the second amendment...

the articles of the constitution define the powers and responsibilities granted to the federal gubmint, by us, the people...the first ten amendments, aka, the bill of rights, specifically limit the power and responsibility of the federal gubmint and reserves to the states and to us, the people, those powers and responsibilities...

with that said...

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO AWL!

and KAG in 2020!

AZMike, I thought you said that you wanted to go shooting. Since you apparently do not wish to go shooting, why don't you tell us who is trying to change your opinions? I do agree that rocky mtn bill is a diarrhea flinging fool.

I am curious how you managed to vote while in the Army... before you were old enough to vote. Of course, if you are a Democrat in some places, you can even vote when you are dead. I can only find where under-age voting by military personnel has been possible in some local elections, or in 1918 for under-age soldiers who were in the military during WWI.

Well here's Billy telling more lies about our NRA. I knew he would continue to run away from my questions about Democrats who perjure themselves, lie under oath, and are a direct and proven threat to our Constitutional Rights.

Billy, the NRA did not simply make up Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein's statement lamenting that she didn't have the votes for an outright ban on assault style rifles, or that her goal is to disarm America.

https://youtu.be/Mj4AcjyuV38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRmapqDakE

Recently, we discussed several Liberal Democrat candidates including Beto O'rourke, who spouted their intent to ban guns, live on National TV during the Democrat Debates. Democrat California Congressman Eric Slawell recently spoke of using military force against law abiding U.S. Citizens to enforce gun bans.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...s-idUSKCN1VY2FP

The NRA did not make those things up Billy. Nor did the NRA put words in Barack Obama's mouth when he told Professor John Lott that "I don't believe people should be able to own guns."

I have, in the past, directed you to Hillary Clinton's campaign website to read her own threats to infringe upon the Constitutional gun rights of Americans. The NRA did not put those statements there.

Right now, we have a revolt happening in Virginia, where Democrats have threatened to use the police and National Guard to enforce new anti-gun laws, and where 95% of the counties have declared themselves 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries where they will refuse to enforce new Democrat anti-gun laws.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/virgi...-register-guns/

You know many Democrats still wish to ban handguns. Many Democrats even want to ban any gun or ammunition which is capable of penetrating police body armor, which would include your bolt action hunting rifles.

I've given you numerous examples of mass murders that involved trucks, arson, bombs, airplanes, and even bolt action rifles. You and Democrats still wish to ban semi-autos.

You know damn well that the Democrat Party has been engaged in incrementally hacking away at the 2nd Amendment for decades. The Courts that have upheld those anti-gun laws have had Liberal Left Democrat Judges. Neither I, nor the Framers, nor the NRA wants convicted felons to have guns. The 2008 Heller decision addressed that too, but they specifically mentioned AR-15's as being protected for ownership by law abiding citizens. The fact that Democrats know they would not get away with taking our gun rights away all at once shows us just how stupid and dishonest you are.

You lie about the NRA, and the Democrat threat to continue to infringe upon our gun rights, yet you have the nerve to come here and make a shrill cry that supporting Donald Trump is a ride to the end of Democracy. Show us your proof of this absurd statement Billy: