I fail to see the logic in shooting a 24 gram load pushed at 1300 or 1350. It would recoil like a well balanced game load with 32 grams at a slower speed. A very light 12 bore would be quite pleasant to shoot with 24 grams at about 1150 fps. That's the way I load them, but then they are admittedly hard to buy at the store. Even my favorite 6 1/4 pound Sauer ten bore is pleasant to shoot as long as I load it intelligently.