I didn't feel confronted by bill's and miller's opinions, keith. Nor do I believe others run away when they don't respond to my opinions.

Re earlier, our gun club discussed the new national gun lobby's agendas at its agm this weekend, and is writing a position paper on its extreme aspects.

Hate groups seek credibility by fastening to wherever they can get a grip and might have slipped in during the gun lobby's 67 per cent growth this year.

Our club won't hoist aboard hate in any form.