Stan, I suspect unless someone has done a bit of back boring or jug choking they are both cylinder. They look to be late 1850's and choke was years away. Bet they were the pride and joy of their owner. A true pair by the way.

They got a lot of use. The drop point on gun number one is almost worn away but the trigger guard on number two has more wear to the engraving. They have been used and enjoyed, not replaced by a breech loader and left in some closet after just a few years use. How I wish they could give a fair account of their travels. I bet they saw a lot of game in their time.

At $8,700, if I had hit the lottery last night, they would already be on their way to my house. But like always having zero numbers, on my one ticket, I not going to be calling tonight.