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Look up Bob "Cookie' Krumm at Ft. Smith. I did several "cast and blast" trips with him back in the late 1980's-- The Bighorn had just been opened up to "White Man's sporting trips" and the area Indians, drunk and unemployed, resented all that $ coming in and they not getting any of it-
In Oct 1986- while floating the river for the ducks and pheasants on the many small islands (they pheasants flew over from the private ranch holdings and sought refuge on the islands. We saw many Indians up on the high ridges, watching us-- As we carried 12 gauge shotguns, we did not carry sidearms- either open carry or concealed. In July 1990 Mae and I took our daughters out West, and visited Yellowstone National Park- no problems, great fly fishing, and I felt no need to carry a sidearm.
Fast forward to today's world-- drugs, piss-headed drop outs looking to rip the honest world off- I would be carrying my Kimber Para-Carry .45 3.5" arrel "locked, cocked and ready to rock"-- Yellowstone has more dangers that bears and bisons- wander off the well traveled paths at your own risk- RWTF
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Some of you guys poo-poo the need to carry when in various places in the west. There are valid reasons to carry everywhere you go. We camped in places in northern California and took walks around the perimeter of the large, well established RV park. Mounted on the fences were several signs about the mountain lions in the area. That got my attn.
When we camped at a new and barely established KOA in Monument Valley, we were very surprised to see dogs, many dogs, in groups, some singularly, invade the campground each night in search of hand outs. I saw great dane mix curs invade people's personal space around campfires. At one point I had pistol in hand...
Yep, I carry, usually concealed so that only the wife knows about it....
Mergus
Duckboats, decoys and double barrels...
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Sad, but true. There are good reasons to have a firearm available. Unfortunately in todays world we have to deal with a patch work of both reasonable to ludicrous rules.
Dont carry often, but I am glad I can in Kansas.
Never occurred to me what the rules are for the reservations near me
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Hello Lloyd: the last time I fished the Bighorn a sidearm would have been useful only to blast a few holes in the fish that wouldn't take my perfectly presented nymph (hour after hour). It is an SOB to fish unless you have perfect technique with size 24 micro-scuds. Tribal members are the least of your worries, as few of them really envy a #5 split bamboo rod or fresh waders (they tend to avoid water). Occasionally Dick Cheney will still float the river, usually with a body-double in the dory ahead of him. You might have your sidearm handy then if you want to defend him, or die under a light trigger from his lifetime secret service detail. Take 'yer pick.
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Just got home today after my little trout safari to Montana and Wyoming. The Blackfoot Indian reservation looked about like what I expected (all reservations seem to have alot in common). The Bighorn River was beautiful but fairly unproductive. It was a little high but... should have been far-more productive. Not sure what has been going on there but I'll likely not bother to go back. Ended up in Wyoming on the Noth Platte which has it's own problems, but it was far-more productive. Better food (& drink) options there as well. Travelling with a 15-year old driver added it's own special charm (and a few challenges) but overall it was a good trip. We had fun and learned a few things.
Never needed a gun, also a good thing.
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Glad you had a good trip.
Father/son time is hard to come by.
It's beautiful country.
The big res' of the West can be very eye opening.
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Good for you with the adventure you had with your boy. Many more.
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I hope you have a fun trip. A person never needs a handgun...until they need one very badly! For those of you who know when or where you need one, good for you. I have a spare in my truck, a set of jumper cables, and a sidearm. They are all tools to be used at unexpected times to solve problems. I hope none are needed.
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I hope you have a fun trip. A person never needs a handgun...until they need one very badly! For those of you who know when or where you need one, good for you. I have a spare in my truck, a set of jumper cables, and a sidearm. They are all tools to be used at unexpected times to solve problems. I hope none are needed. Common sense right there. But, common sense is not all that common, and that explains why a few dont understand being prepared, or, worse yet, want to inflict their lack of common sense upon you. I will never understand the orgasmic thrill people get telling other people what they can and cant do, while taking no responsibility for the outcome. Hope you had a great trip, Lloyd. There was some weather in our stomping grounds this week, hope the birds did OK. Best, Ted
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Common sense right there. But, common sense is not all that common, and that explains why a few dont understand being prepared, or, worse yet, want to inflict their lack of common sense upon you.
I will never understand the orgasmic thrill people get telling other people what they can and cant do, while taking no responsibility for the outcome.
Hope you had a great trip, Lloyd. There was some weather in our stomping grounds this week, hope the birds did OK.
Best,
Ted
I'm guessing you had an "orgasmic thrill" when you typed that gibberish.... I felt more like taking a dump after I read it Teddy bOy.
Last edited by HomelessjOe; 07/22/19 08:09 AM. Reason: Thanks Ted I feel a lot better now
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