RWTF the problem is learning to shoot that way you were forced to call in groups of teal in number of three or greater. If you ever have a person tell you he often shot in front of teal you either have a person who never shot teal much or is just mistaken.
Back in the bad old days of lead shot, I killed Black Ducks with shots of 50 plus yards, because they were so weary that you just could not get them to come closer. After four or five very long range passes, you got to the point that you know it is long range or nothing. You do it often enough with a tightly choked double and you can get pretty good at it. Funny thing is you can do it, but never can explain how much lead or hold over you must use to do it. It is so fluid, not something you can pin down. But with today's Steel shot I would never risk such a long shot. Still nothing is as beautiful as a long range shot, that you connect on. I suspect that is a large part of the reason I like to shoot Dove so much with a .410. You can setup you hide so you get a large number of those very long range shots. And 30 yards, with a .410, is a long range shot but one which you can learn.
