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Whatever Dave does with this dissolving phantasmagoria, my hope is that there's a cleanup of all the political partisanship and slogans, jingoism, imputing of motives and citizenship, and it's packed it off to another place on the board. I'm here to learn about doubles. I don't give a tinker's dam about someone's father or politician unless it relates to gun provenance or some activity in the shooting sports.

Constitutionalists may see a lot of slipping and sliding here of the purposes of the US constitution, or any constitution for that matter.

When Christ enunciated the philosophy that the Sabbath was made for man rather than vice versa he was giving expression to that feeling with which most modern students of constitutional law approach their subject. There was at one time a disposition to regard a national constitution, with all its machinery of �checks and balances,� and its fervent adherence to dogmatic principles of political and economic liberty, as a thing immutable and eternal and a clearly defined political concept to which all future social development must strictly conform.

This conception of the constitution quite naturally enjoyed the support of the great majority of political scientists in those periods when the social structure protected by the terms of the constitution continued to prove itself adequate to meet the demands for �the greatest possible happiness for the greatest number of people.� When it had quite obviously ceased to fulfill these demands and when the swelling agitation for reform began to throw an unprecedented strain on the machinery of government we find an increasing number of political students favouring the view that the constitution ought not to be regarded as a static formula, but as a fluid and flexible one.

This modern and certainly more popular view holds that the constitution, as a formula for social conduct, should be open to the broadest interpretations in order to meet the demands of a rapidly changing society. If necessary the constitution should be twisted, stretched, bent or even broken to make its structure conform to the changing shape of the social order, which occurs daily throughout the modern world, echoing Lincoln�s reminder: the people may exercise the constitutional right of amending the constitution, or the revolutionary right of over-throwing it---in brief, that the constitution was made for man, and not man for the constitution.

I offer this as a non-partisan opinion of constitutional development, of which my family has actively participated, written on and lectured for many decades.

So what do we get when nobody can explain how it is neither disloyal nor unpatriotic to not only allow, but condone a foreign adversary to influence our election because it benefits your ideology and political party and then take steps to conceal the influence and lie about it to the American people?

You get dimwits talking about socialism!

Nice to see the flag of intellectual surrender put up so early!

I look forward to the day Canada collapses as a nation and something better can arise from the ashes.

Really CBack? Try to step outside from the fold. I have been pointing out, although brutally because they don't deserve any less, is that they are all full of sh!t espousing the virtues of the Founders when in reality, the Founders would disapprove of how they support a foreign adversary influencing our election because it benefits their ideology and political party and then take steps to conceal the influence and lie about it to the American people.

I'll admit, I find you to be a particularly interesting case cause I know you hate dictators, depots and tyrants, yet I would like to know how you square your support for all things Trump when he is in the bag for dictators, despots and tyrants. Putin, MBS, and Kim Jong-un have murdered people including journalists who expose their regimes and American citizens, and Trump sides with them over our own intelligence agencies and fancies himself a king.

How do you square your support for Trump with your despise for his idols?

And even though you probably want to get into it, I'm going to refrain from labeling you as disloyal or unpatriotic. Being a citizen of another country earns you that distinction, but it doesn't reach loyalty to one's own convictions. That's a disloyalty of a another sort.