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Brian Terry, Chris. Let see you rationalize Obama/Holderss murder of this police officer.
Then, tell us who Trump murdered.
Best,
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So Fast and Furious, which began under Bush, but expanded under Obama justifies allowing a foreign adversary to influence or election and then take steps to conceal the influence and lie about it to the American people?
Just how much do you hate this country Ted?
Whats the matter? You don't have the words to explain how allowing a foreign adversary to influence or election and then take steps to conceal the influence and lie about it to the American people is neither disloyal nor unpatriotic?
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You are all arguing with a personage who has not posted one single thing in the last 12 months that is useful doublegun information. You can read through his posts and see that for yourself. He brings absolutely nothing to the table but his hateful, filthy talk and troublemaking. To attempt to prove him wrong is an effort in futility, as he will never admit it. He exists here solely to stir up controversy to try and fill his empty life. I cannot think of one single poster here who has contributed less to useful knowledge of doubleguns than him.
Remember Charles Portis' admonition: "What have you done when you have bested a fool?"
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Spot on!
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Ted, I respect your opinion and your decision, but pick your fights. No one wins, in this kind of fight.
SRH Ted would actually have to try to refute the issue in order to be considered to be in the fight. Talking about shit that either didn't happen or happened decades ago is just kind of like shooting around the periphery. Ted's showing a good bit of tollerance, might just be waiting for you to come up with something to refute. But hey, good news, Inspector General Horowitz tried to wind down his FISA abuse investigation, but after reviewing a million plus documents and conducting a hundred some odd interviews, the cya characters want to make sure the record shows they made an attempt to distance themselves, eh. Why do we care, because we're not going to keep confusing russia facts with snopes-n-pbs, are we? Awe heck, you will, but while there might not be any winners, you'll still know things are looking like you're a loser when you feel like you should be entitled, right?
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All the allegations you mention, occurred BEFORE DJ Trump took office, under the watchful eyes of the BH Obama administration, who were warned by Devin Nunez that it, election tampering, that is, would occur back in 2014. It is worth noting that the administration of BH Obama did nothing, save to say Cut it out
So, we hold the occupant of the White House responsible for the errors and malfeasance of the unqualified former occupant?
Try again.
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Ted
Unsurprisingly Ted, you have a very self serving view on this. Pay particular attention to this paragraph: "Obama administration officials sought support from bipartisan congressional leaders to send a letter to state governors to urge shoring up of their defenses of election infrastructure. But, as reported by CNN in August 2017, they were rebuffed by Republican leaders, who viewed the request as partisan, according to current and former officials briefed on the discussions." In short, your boy Mitch shot it down. And why would he as he knew he would be a beneficiary of Russia's efforts.
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Ted, I respect your opinion and your decision, but pick your fights. No one wins, in this kind of fight.
SRH Ted would actually have to try to refute the issue in order to be considered to be in the fight. Talking about shit that either didn't happen or happened decades ago is just kind of like shooting around the periphery. Ted's showing a good bit of tollerance, might just be waiting for you to come up with something to refute. But hey, good news, Inspector General Horowitz tried to wind down his FISA abuse investigation, but after reviewing a million plus documents and conducting a hundred some odd interviews, the cya characters want to make sure the record shows they made an attempt to distance themselves, eh. Why do we care, because we're not going to keep confusing russia facts with snopes-n-pbs, are we? Awe heck, you will, but while there might not be any winners, you'll still know things are looking like you're a loser when you feel like you should be entitled, right? what about this pro, what about that pro eh thrifty? You should stop being so obvious when you get your panites in a twist.
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Read the Mueller report, I have, then get some perspective on the actual volume of the Russian influence. Compare it to the volume of political speech, internet activity, media reports, political advertising and it is really about a bucket of spit in the ocean of discourse. The true success of their actions was not to change the election but help feed an interpretation of the election. Something your posting are actually complicit in. The KGB has a whole department dedicated to disinformation and undermining our institutions. You have fallen for the trap.
Congrats OldColonel, this post actually responds to the issue. You would have a stronger point against me here if it wasn't for Trump so often and so publicly siding with Putin and Russia against the fact that they engaged in a campaign to benefit him. You just can't get around that.
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...Pay particular
attention to this paragraph:
"Obama administration officials sought support from bipartisan congressional leaders to send a letter to state governors.... Sorry I left out cnn. So, lemme get this straight. Your guy barak uses over a hundred and thirty executives actions to prop up flaws in his ocare, but he went to congress so that they could write fifty letters to mail out? Your faux testosterone moves the needle to little boy range compared to barry's sense of responsibility to the nation, eh? Regardless of what you feel ole Mitch should'a done, all husein had to was was defend the nation, right?
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Oh, I see. If Obama and the Dems came out in September of 2016 and laid it all out there for you that Russia was in the bag for Trump and actively working to benefit his campaign, you would have believed Obama and done the patriotic thing of not voting for Trump.
You and I know better thrifty, and even suggesting that this information coming from one side in a heavily contested election would have been well received is about as dishonest as you get.
You truly a unique person, but not in a good way.
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nca225:
Its interesting that you say "ills the past." Does this mean that they should be ignored? Or just ignored because they were your party?
Don't ever call me disloyal, cowardly, or selfish because I voted for President Trump. While I don't always agree, he was better than the alternative. Hillary Clinton is a career lying, corrupt individual, and who knows what under the table deals she made with our enemies since her election was "in the bag."
By the way, when I was standing watch in the North Atlantic, where were you?
When I was flying ASW patrols monitoring Soviet submarines, where were you?
When I was flying patrols off of Beirut, where were you?
When I was on the flight deck of an Amphibious Assault Ship in the Adriatic, where were you?
Maybe you served as well, I don't know. But my oath has no expiration date. I will always vote on the side of who believes in protecting, supporting, and defending our Constitution as written. Not for those who wish to destroy it.
That you swore an oath to protect this country makes your disloyal choices even more odious. And I never said you should have voted for Clinton, Just not for Trump because he is a Russian puppet. There were other candidates you could of voted for soldier. You voted for the one taking and then concealing help from a foreign enemy. Such a horrible way to respect your own service.... And again, whatever the Democrats did in the past has nothing to do with nor does it justify what Trump and the GOP did with Russia. Take this for example, I bet 100% that if you were a "maker" and caught a former employee you had to let go breaking and entering into your residence, you would be more concerned with their current illegal action, than their excuses about how your letting them go put them not that position. I bet when they cry what about this or what about that will not sway you from addressing the issue that they are breaking and entering into your home. Now please try explain how it is not disloyal nor unpatriotic to accept help in an election from a foreign adversary that serves your interest, and then conceal the assistance. There is actual proof of extensive profitable relationships between various foreign players and the Clintons which you conveniently ignore while focusing on what fact found by the Mueller Report? It found no actual fact of collusion. I doubt you would be vehemently attacking Hillary had she won. Perhaps I am wrong about that. You nastily attack others who have significant credentials of a lifetime of service opposite of what you assert about them. If your arguments are the best the left have to offer, prepare to lose more. Your style and content of posts are unworthy of response in the future. Bless you and may you contribute something of actual merit one day.
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