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I am sure he does- he is a Buick collector par excellence. As for the mansion in the Grosse Pointes (there are five, and my wife Mae grew up in Grosse Pointe Woods- FWIW-- Her younger brother had a paper route (Detroit News- major competitor to the Detroit Free Press-back in the day) and his route encompassed Mrs. Edsal Ford's huge estate- every year at Xmas- all the delivery folks, including the paper boy, received from the guard at the gate an envelope with a card, a note and a crisp $100 bill- not too shabby indeed.

I have no idea when and where he obtained this Richland Arms 20 bore- will look at it whenever he decides he is ready for that next step- he just mentioned it to me this AM at our downtown Wed. morning coffee get-togethers at Margo's restaurant. Most of the fellows talk golf- he and I are not golfers, but he has a solid mechanical engineering background, and loves to talk about cars- He subscribes to Hemmings managzine, as I do to Shooting Sportsman.

I doubt if I will buy this Spanish mfg. 20 bore- I have a Fox Sterly 20 bore- 28" DT, EJ I bought about 10 years ago, hoping for a legal dove season here- didn't happen- so I need another 20 bore side-by-side like I need a third ear-- RWTF

Since you mentioned "Cactus Jack" O'Conner- you might get a kick out of a story about the old AZ curmudgeon-- Outdoor writer John Madson and his 13 year old son were invited guests of Jack and Eleanor O'Connor at their AZ hacienda. Jack delighted in giving them the grand tour- all the fine guns, trophies, photo albums- the "whole nine yards"-- After that, Jack O'Connor turned to John's teenage son and asked him-- "Well Scott- what do you think of all this?" Scott Madson's terse reply was as follows: "Well, Sir, you don't do very much fishing, do you"--

I once read that the O'Connors oldest son, Bradford- did himself in- damn shame-if that is the case--RWTF

Some are good, some are bad all are hard to sell at a good price.
bill

low priced hunting guns generally do not have issues...

problems occur when shooters try to use them as high priced target guns...

YES! I am biased, the Great War, the British Government and the Spanish lower value end gun makers all had a hand in decimating the British gun trade in all its forms. Making it a shadow of its former self that we see today!

Yes Foxy . . . Eibar is in Spain. But look again and I'm sure you'll find that the importer is Richland, not Richfield.

Right you are- I added Blissfield, MI into the mixture-- Richland Arms-- The Stoegers of lower SE Mich back in the 1960's- perhaps. O, come se dice en Espano, "Quizas" por que no, amigo mio de el Estado Iowa>>>!!El Zorro

From all the posts I've read here about Spanish guns built in the last couple decades, I'd conclude the major makers do a pretty good job. But, I also think it would be a large and unnecessary expense to buy a new one unless your specs were unique.They sell at auction for a fraction of original cost and there are quite a few of them available. I just saw an Arrizabalaga SLE go for $1200.

That's been my experience, ed. Never a problem. My old ones weren't made to fire hundreds of rounds a week. I don't.

Given the significant price increases in Spanish guns, there's little question that it's a really good idea to look used. Definitely some real bargains compared to new prices.