Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
....The fact that you don't see many DT's or pumps in competition these days doesn't have anything to do with the fact they don't work--any more than the fact that you see more automatic transmissions than manual means that stick shifts don't work. If your car with an automatic transmission won't start, you won't be able to solve the problem by popping the clutch....

When it comes to competition, maybe what works and doesn't work, goes hand in hand with what's popular. The better and more serious a wing shooter, the more likely some attention is paid to gun fit. It may not make much sense to worry about fit, and then change the front hand position and length of pull for every double target presentation.

I have never noticed a good shooter, in contention, limp through an event with a major problem like a dead battery, and come through with a win. They come with very reliable equipment, and serious plan B's. For the rest of shooting it only comes down to preferences. Why pay for a Cadillac of a double, and then split hairs about whether it's as reliable as a VW bug or a late sixties Chevelle?


It's a bit hard to pin down "serious" when it comes to competition shooting. If you look at the classifications of shooters at a big shoot (I've both scored and pulled at the Wisconsin Iron Man, where there will be several hundred shooters), you'll likely find more shooters in lower classifications versus higher ones. Which means they possess lesser skills . . . maybe just as "serious", but maybe not. I shoot in a winter skeet league and will likely shoot in a summer league this year. Am I "serious"? Well, I'm not driven to the point that I obsess about score . . . but I do shoot all winter, which requires some degree of "seriousness" if you happen to live in northern WI.

And I don't think I've ever seen anyone change their FRONT hand position between shots at pairs (I know that I don't) due to shooting a DT gun. Some do change their rear hand position a bit. Mine moves very slightly. But, on the other hand, shooting on a cold day, I can't possibly trap the trigger on a DT gun when shooting a pair.

And if you haven't seen issues with even very expensive guns in the hands of very experienced shooters, Craig . . . you need to get out more. Meanwhile, the venerable old Remington 1100, which certainly isn't expensive, has an enviable reputation for reliability.

Last edited by L. Brown; 02/18/19 06:24 PM.