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Why didn't you make this observation when Obama said he respected the 2nd Amendment despite a 100% anti-gun voting record? Or how about the Obama administration playing catch-and-release with illegals, and making the false claim that they were turning away record numbers of illegals?

Oh sorry, I forgot... you are an "independent moderate" who is rarely critical of anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats, but comes out as reliably as spring rains to criticize pro-gun Republicans.

I am not implying a thing Craig. The shut down happened when the Republicans had control of all three branches of Government. Remember that bill you wanted? It was passed by both chambers of a Republican Congress. The shut down is simply to fire up our Presidents base before the 2020 election.....just as KY John pointed out. Crisis at the border? Nope. Crisis getting the base to the polls? Maybe.

Billy,
If you feel the President has such a compelling case for building this wall, please explain why he was unable to convince members of his own party to authorize the funding.

All theater Bill, all theater.

No wall is needed anymore!tRUMP supporters have formed a human chain,by interlocking their bonespurs!!!

This was the border wall south of Patagonia Az.WhenI was at Fort Huachuca....What more do we need?

What we need is the US Military armed with rubber bullets and shoot their azzes and they won't storm the border.

If that doesn't work arm them with live ammo.

So who do you support...the illegals

Sorry Craig. I focused on the part where you asked me about what Hillary would have done for the military. Since I never would have voted for her, that's irrelevant. Other Republicans in the primary . . . well, some of them are members of Congress. A lot of people were attracted to President Trump because he's an outsider. One advantage members of Congress have: they understand how Congress works. I shake my head over what Trump's doing now. He told us how great he was at cutting deals. Yet in his first two years in office, he wasn't able to cut a deal--with his own party in control of Congress--to get his wall built. So he's now shut down the govt, and maybe soon will shut it down again, because he can't cut a deal with the Dems in control of the House? Really seems strange to me. I'm thinking one of those candidates with Congressional experience likely could have cut a deal--with his own party in charge--to get a bill passed to put his major policy goal(s) into law.

As far as being able to trim the govt because of what we've learned from the shutdown . . . when have you seen that happen from previous shutdowns? What I've learned from shutdowns is that we're giving a whole bunch of govt employees a paid vacation. And once the shutdown is over, they go back to work. (Republicans are supposed to favor fiscal responsibility. That does not seem very fiscally responsible to me!) The trimming doesn't happen. And it's far less likely to happen now that the Republican Party no longer controls Congress. Because of the Republican defeat in last year's Congressional elections, Trump now has far less chance of doing much significant at all when it comes to "draining the swamp". Again, I ask myself: Why didn't he try more of that when he had Republican control?

Funny we did not hear this kind of bullshit from Larry Clown when Obama shut down the Government for 16 days in 2013. Or from SKB either.

Don't pay attention to what they say. Pay attention to what they do.

The idiots we have in Congress don't have a clue how Congress should operate