Decades ago I started a 12 year-old shooting with my cut down Beretta gas auto 12 with reloaded 3/4 oz. load. It was a developed load by the late rangemaster of a local skeet club. It was a good load; the boy learned to powder skeet with it and he shot it on early season dove. I also shot it out of my 3200 on dove while hunting with the boy and it was a pleasure to shoot out of the 8 lb. gun.