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Does anyone know the status of Pilkington stock finish products? Both Brownell's and Midway show it as "Discontinued." I've been unable to contact Pilkington directly.
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Steve try this
The Pilkington Gun Co. P.0. Box 1296. Muskogee, OK 74401 1-918-683-9418
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Tinker, Thanks but that number has been disconnected.
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That's not good. Theirs is good stuff.
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Hate to hear that as well. Been using Pilkington products for a long time. JR
Be strong, be of good courage. God bless America, long live the Republic.
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Holy Cow....have you seen the new price of the rust blue solution? 56$ for four ounces! I already make my browning solution. Now time to start making my rust blue solution too.
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Bakers Modified for Steel Barrels
This works great and less expensive for more barrels: Steel Shotgun Barrels: Potassium Chlorate 5 % Sodium Nitrate 6% Potassium Nitrate 2 % Mercuric Chloride 5% Water qs For a blacker and faster solution use 2% Ammonium Chloride Etching Solution (for Pre Etch) Nitric Acid 1 oz Water 240 ml ( 8 oz) Use the boiling water process, swabbing on CLEAN and prepared barrels, boil 2 minutes at a time, steel wool and continue about 10 times until desired finish is achieved. Wash with hot clean sodium Bicarbonate water and oil . Burnish with Steel wool and oil to finish proper luster. I modified Mr. Bakers solution to bring solubilities to more scientific levels and deleted an inert ingredient or two. I also usually add 1-3% Ammonium Chloride to help the process and found the Potassium Chlorate speeds the oxidation and quality of the job.
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I have not done any bluing in some time now. I have tried both the cold rust & Hot rust & much prefer the cold method. I think I bought one bottle of Pilkington's once & found it very good, but pricey. I have also tried Laurel Mountain. It was sold as a browner, but the simple act of boiling it in hot water after the rust converts it to the blue (Black). It was not quite as fine-grained as the Pilkington, but perhaps if it was diluted to a weaker solution this would be remedied, as it was more aggressive. Most of my rust bluing was done with homebrews with recipe taken from Angier's book, though I'm not sure now which one I settled on. I tried to avoid those with mercury, even though this addition makes for a very effective blue. Have recently read of using a mixture of Hydrogen Peroxide, Vinegar & Salt but have no experience with this.
I did note that Brownell's now lists a solution under their own name which sells for the same quantity as the Pilkington for around $10.00. They call it a "Classic" blue I believe, may be very similar to the Pilkington. Could be worth looking into.
Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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2-piper, I have used both Pilkington's and Laurel Mountain Forge rusting formulas, along with many others. You are correcti n hypothesizing that diluting LMF would be better diluted. Diluting it about 1:1 with water makes it work just fine. Personally, I like Winrest (no longer available) best, but the brand is really not that important if the strength is right. It's more the prep and application that make the final product.
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