Good discussion gentlemen and food for thought, I suppose and Im going to make the effort to get out and pattern my spreaders. I have a few of the Fiocchis in my dove bag too. Never noticed any extra recoil but then again, I have only run those through a 7.5lb Fox with 30 tubes and great balance. Its my dove gun before ducks come in.. I will put up a large area of paper to see just how any fliers may stray out of the pattern. I will not hesitate to use them for dove/pigeon should I choose a tightly choked gun for the day and usually only load them into the left chamber so should be conservatively be able to keep an ample inventory until I bump into RST at one of the future regional events. I stopped reloading several years ago which I enjoyed, but could make economic sense of as I dont shoot targets except on occasion. Cheers and good hunting,, jmc