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Not to confuse things but Kdross could you go over the other ones you had checked ?One was from RB in PA out of proof correct,then was there one from IB in Kalif,or was that a cracked frame someone on here found?
I think like others here I am pulling for you to suceed in what would seem like a reasonable search and a bit suprised at what your finding after inspections.

Email sent. Thanks Ken.

Update.

I just received an email from Steve Barnett. Despite the barrels having been sleeved which he was not aware of, he has issued a full credit and has removed the gun from his site. I would recommend Steve Barnett Guns to anyone looking for a nice gun. Steve was very pleasant to deal with. Just be sure to have the gun inspected by a qualified gunsmith since Steve is dealer and not a gunsmith.

The search continues.

Ken

All my work by him is in the last 3 to 4 years. I have not asked him when he marks and when he does not. He is not required to mark by US laws and he may have some clients that request it not be marked.

I will make a point of asking him next time we talk.

al

Marking a gun "sleeved" is not neccesary in my opinion. It is UK law or custom and doesn't have a thing to do with what goes on over here. Marking a gun "sleeved" is akin to marking a gun "reblued". If I can't see it, it must be good.

If you cant see it it must be good enough? Try that line when you go to sell your 25K dollar sleeved gun to someone with a real good eye.
The gent is looking for an honest gun for honest money, not a sleeved gun at top dollar. I too feel they should be marked on the flats. I get the feeling you dont care for many things British 8bore, is that possible? It reminds me of your ealier comments on this thread about the value of proof. I think the Brit boys have a pretty good system, one that is much better than our Bubba gump proof houses out in the back 40. I also fell that Ken is much sharper than the average buyer, good for you Ken, and good luck in your quest for a good Purdey. I'm pulling for you.
Steve

Sleeved tubes 1200.00-1500.00, original and sound barrels priceless.
Besides 8b has said, guns with non-original barrels are just "toys."

It looks like 8bore said "sleeving is okay as long as he can't see it" and "it's not marked".

In my humble oppinion...any Gunsmith that would sleeve a gun and not mark it....will be involved in crookery weither that was his original intent or not.

Ballista non grata at Barnett's. Where will it show up next? Better do a mix-n-match on the monogrammed case.

jack

Sure it would be nice if all sleeved guns were marked, but they're not, so we have to be able to identify them with a magnifier or by some other means. If you insist that all sleeved guns be marked, how do you justify refinished guns that are indistinguishable from original, but not marked as such? I'm sure the rest of you are aware that Lowell's last statement about "what I said" is probably bogus. I have many guns with non original barrels that I don't regard as "toys". By the way, SKB, I own and shoot several British guns, don't belittle British Proof, only realize like you should that proof marks don't guarantee that the gun has not been bored or struck since those proof marks were applied. A wall thickness gauge trumps British Proof every time. Every one of the guns in UK auctions with the caveat "wall thickness below recommended minimums" bear proof marks. Proof marks are useful for policing makers of new guns. Once the guns have been out there for awhile, only a wall thickness gauge means squat.