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"The land" might be a little hard to hear when its telling you where not to build, but the message is loud and harsh when it tells you where you shouldn't have. Hurricane, flood, forest fire, twenty truck pile-up in your house on the freeway, or a cracked foundation on your filled in lot, just to use the examples of common sense I mentioned...Geo

I blame a lot of the 'do nothing' philosophy on the federal agencies. Regulations have made it almost impossible to conduct prescribed burns and stay within budgets. We have small Waterfowl Production Areas around here surrounded by water on three sides and highways on the other that could easily and safely be burned by one person in a T-shirt with a bic lighter. But the feds require a fully equipped and trained (at approved out of state training facilities of course)crew, two modern engines with trained operators, a smoke management team with approved signs, emergency radios, weather forecasts, FAA notification, etc. I think its about time to turn these type of management activities over to private enterprise.

FYI here is text of a letter I sent to a meeting that is being held today:

Dear District 6 Advisory Board members and attendees,

First, thanks to the North Dakota Game and Fish Department for the fine work you do for our natural resources.

I suggest we spend a bit more money on managing wetlands with prescribed fire. It�s been known for a long time that weather, especially fire from lightning and grazing by everything from insects to bison developed grasslands worldwide, but we seem to mostly ignore it around here. Peek out the car window and you will quickly see many sloughs that have turned into thick bands of old cattail, and in many places thick with willow and even cottonwood trees. The best grasses for livestock and hay that once grew in these places are gone, shaded out and smothered, mostly by hybrid cattail that swept across the state about fifty years ago. And as the native meadow and marsh plants disappeared the birds and mammals went with them.

There is a lot of public land, including State Game Management Areas in southeast North Dakota where these overgrown conditions exist. My thought is that if parts of them, perhaps with some adjacent upland grasslands, were burned, then eventually put on a rest, burn, graze rotation, they would make wonderful demonstration areas where landowners could see the results of wetland restoration with prescribed fire and possibly apply the techniques to their own wetlands to produce both economic and wildlife benefits.

That's a well written letter halk, I hope the powers that be see it your way.




Ted,

I think you are a you are referring to a single drought that lasted 2000-2500 years, 25,000 years ago. You may recall that the earth was experiencing the height of the last ice age during that time. That's not happening now and the earth looked quite a bit different then.

In addition, fossil records also show that California has gone through mega droughts that have lasted from 20 to 200 years uin the past, the last being around 1300 AD. It would be interesting to know what the circumstances looked like across the globe at that time as well, but is known that during that time frame European records show that there was a "mini ice age" in effect. Again, no mini ice age occurring now either. One circumstance that was missing during those last prolonged droughts was the effect of 250 years of industrialization and the effect of chemicals that were put into the atmosphere as as result.

FWIW, I find, at least for me, that solving problems is often aided by asking questions as opposed to ignoring them.

Looks like another period of cooling is not that far away.

I also notice, that for you, an occasional f-bomb is your way of asking as opposed to ignoring questions.

Darn it, I�ve gone and offended your sensitive virgin ears. I�d extend my sympathies to you thrifty, but I think the�re better placed with the victims of the wildfires in California.

Like this guy...
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/17/668742558...ch-for-his-wife

And instead of adding to meaningful conversation, all you can do is try to get a rise out of me. Sorry thrifty I�ve passed on this before and I�ll pass agian. But by all means, be the man you want to be.

Idiot

Chris,
A drought is not a problem, in reality. It is, instead, a geographic time related fact, and they have occurred through time, including prior to humans being an industrial society. A single Krakatoa volcanic event spews 10 million times the amount of carbon, and chemicals into the atmosphere, all at once, instead of across the more accurate 140 years of human industrialization. 140 years is but a blink of the eye in geo time, Chris, not worth mentioning in comparison to, say, the 100 million years dinosaurs roamed the earth.
The notion, of you thinking a drought is a �problem� and what you can do about it, is hilarious to me, Chris. Honest.
99.9% of all life that lived on earth at any time is extinct, Chris, and while you might find that to be problematic, the same percentage, 99.9%, was extinct before humans showed up and figured out how to use fire.
You are a lot like the people that insist everything be compostable and biodegradable. That empty cartridge you can�t find in the snow after you missed the last bird may not seem biodegradable, but, give it 500 million years or so, and I promise you, you won�t be able to find a trace of it.
For a few different reasons.
I hope you can discover a few problems that a man can solve in the time allotted for doing that, perhaps sixty or so years, for most of us. A healthy garden, or a well reared child come to mind for me.
Not a drought. They will take care of themselves, and some life will adapt, and some other life, won�t. Been going on a long time, simple as that.

Best,
Ted

King, tell them how your organization supported clear-cutting on a massive scale in order to feed over 2000 tons of wood chips per day into a 65 megawatt biomass wood-burning power plant at the New Page pulp mill. Now if Kalifornia would do things like that instead of buying all of those Chinese solar panels and electric cars, they might be better off, eh?

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/new-biomass-regulations-in-n-s-will-reduce-trees-being-cut-1.2852335

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2009/11/future-forestry-nova-scotia

Sounds like a loggers version of "Drill baby, drill". A carbon footprint that makes Al Gore's private Boeing jet seem like a mosquito fart!

Man-made Global Warming was supposed to raise temperatures and cause prolonged droughts, but much of the U.S. is cooler and much wetter than normal. We are told to ignore reality and what our own eyes tell us. The Weatherman on the News last week said we have already shattered the record for precipitation with over a month to go in 2018. But brainless idiots like nca225 refuse to dismiss the propaganda and lies from their Liberal puppeteers:

http://www.hiltonratcliffe.com/the-myths-of-man-made-climate-change/

http://www.climatedepot.com/2010/12/08/s...un-ipcc-gore-2/

https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/400467/original/2010_Senate_Minority_Report.pdf

If we go by prehistoric CO2 levels, at our current CO2 level, the ocean sea levels should be over 100 feet higher than they are right now. But they aren't, are they? And humans didn't even exist at that time either, so who do we blame for that? If dinosaurs had only driven Prius's, they might still be here.

And if you can make it all the way to the end of this article (don't even try nca225), it will be seen that the correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures over the last 400,000 years being used to support the Global Warming propaganda from the Liberal Left is cherry-picking data at its' finest:

http://www.pnas.org/content/99/7/4167

But Liberals and the Fake News have largely been successful in suppressing the 2009 Climate-gate scandal. They just stopped talking about Global Warming until the controversy died down, but they knew they could come right back and continue the B.S.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu...generation.html