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"I guess our hubris is coast to coast then."
Hubris?...Geo
dal's explaination suffices. We seem to keep on developing and developing land that should be developed, just to have that development wiped out by nature, just to develop it again.
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Wouldn't discussing 'multiple variables' just be a strategy to legitimize unrelated agendas? We probably shouldn't assume all fires are equal. The more fuel, the bigger the fire, right? It's probably not the best idea to even bring up 'sound policy', isn't it in the eye of the beholder? To be frank thrifty, I'm not sure how to respond, it seems from your standard fallback of criticizing as an "agenda" something you don't agree with or mocking my recognition that it would have been better to cull these areas rather then let them grow unchecked, your looking to get a few jabs at yours truly...but is a thread discussing the ills of the situation and wishing well to the victims of the California wildfire really the appropriate venue? Tell you what, I'm gonna pass. I feel very bad for our friends who lost everything and I find trampling over their tragedy to get under your skin distasteful. You may proceed how you wish you ol' narcissist you.
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Chuck might be onto something, but, not everyone is going to want to live in a cement bunker.
If you live in an area that is subject to wildfire, made worse by the lack of funds to clear brush and log state owned land, it might be time to move. California spends a lot of money, it just might be time to reprioritize where some of that money is spent. The videos that Ive seen show a firefighters worst nightmare of down pines with brush built up around them for miles, unkempt forest at its absolute worst. A shameful lack of housekeeping, in an area that will not tolerate it.
It seems we see this out of control burn every year.
Yes, pray for rain. But, take steps to prepare for what happens when the rain doesnt come.
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Chuck might be onto something, but.... Thanks Ted, I think so too. I was just wondering if blaming the house and building codes would stop brush fires or came from the point of view of a victim.
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Chuck is on to something. He shares the empathy of all of us for California. It's natural to discuss what-ifs and why after tragedy. Fires and floods where people live is a complex social issue. For many reasons---taxes, privacy, exclusivity, aesthetics, improved social structures etc---we continue to spread out over flood plains and forest tinder boxes and build communities under airport runway approaches and complain of the noise. I don't think it has to come to concrete bunkers for those who want to live among trees. Why does it have to be towering pines? A carefully culled renewable resource of smaller pines would be safer and as pleasing from any perspective. A municipal by-law would do it.
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Chuck might be onto something, but, not everyone is going to want to live in a cement bunker.
If you live in an area that is subject to wildfire, made worse by the lack of funds to clear brush and log state owned land, it might be time to move. California spends a lot of money, it just might be time to reprioritize where some of that money is spent. The videos that Ive seen show a firefighters worst nightmare of down pines with brush built up around them for miles, unkempt forest at its absolute worst. A shameful lack of housekeeping, in an area that will not tolerate it.
It seems we see this out of control burn every year.
Yes, pray for rain. But, take steps to prepare for what happens when the rain doesnt come.
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Ted Two quick points Ted, you mention al lack of funds to clear brush and log state owned land. Much of the forests that have land burned are on federally controlled land. Sadly that dynamic has caused finger pointing, when the stakeholders should be working to clear paths for more effective management. As for preparing for what happens when the rain doesn't come, wouldn't you agree that part of that preparation is to gain a full understanding of why the rains don't come?
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