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Many economy shells do have a shotcup. Others use a wrapper, similar to the revolutionary and much touted Mark-5 shot collar.

Most of the doubleguns admired and used by the guys on this board pre-date the shotcup/wrapper by a good many years.

The steel head and SAMMI pressure specs would be my major concern with older guns.... my Miroku Brownings and modern autoclackers couldn't care less, and devour the cheapos with gusto. They pattern so poorly, that last week I ran the first 50 with my new BT-99 (Gun Club) and scored 24/25 recently from 27 with B-682 (Top Gun).

Federal 'Field and Range', which is an economy shell, has some of the hardest shot I've ever seen. I tested it because of the insanely tight patterns out of my IC/M Merkel.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
If a reloadable hull is important, the Remington Gun Club is the best choice of those listed. Reloading economics is the big problem now. The Federal Top Gun is an excellent shell in my experience - quality control being better than the Gun Club, but it isn't really a good shell for reloading.

Buy as many shells as you can afford, and do it now. $40/flat will soon be long ago and far away.


Ditto with SJ's reply. I have reloaded a fair number of the Gun Club shells, with good results( for Remingtons). Old AA's will never be equalled, IMO and will probably never come again. Fortunately, I probably have enough old AA's to last the rest of my life. If I don't live TOO long.


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SJ I'm glad they pattern so well for you....the ones I've tried over the years didn't.

All the $3.99 Remington Winchester and Federal promo shells that I've cut open didn't have a shot cup and like you said they are known for high pressure.
I'd rather pay a little more for the performance Winchester AA's or Remington STS....to each his own.

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