Glad you like that ammo and if I still had some I'd send it to you. In my opinion it is/was the worst ammo ever made. Always took an average of 5 shots per duck. That's 2 to knock it down and 3 more to kill it on the water. Called Hevi-shot and they replaced the 12 ga stuff I had with real ammo. Shot all the rest (3 boxes of 20's) at skeet.