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So is it the 12ga chambered for 2" shells or the 2" shells that get the love? Aside from RST who else in the states supplies a 2 inch shell?

I have been using Lyalvale 2" ammo for doves in my 2 3/4" guns
They have too much recoil for the lighter firearms
Mike

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What are the load specifics on the Lyalvale 2" that causes you to be recoil sensitive in light guns?

Thanks, SRH

Interesting question. I'm not sure why some choose to shoot a 2" shell in a 2.5" or 2.75" gun. There are plenty of low pressure loads for those chambered guns. The 2" twelve was originally built to be light (5lbs 4oz to 5lbs 11oz). The guns have slightly (very slightly) slimmer 12 gauge dimensions and a similar view down the barrels. As such, they are fast handling and a nice gun for walked up hunting. The 2" gun is the reason people "love" the chambering.

Ken

Stan,

Lyalvale Special Game 2" 15/16 ounce 1375 fps
OUCH!!!

KDGJ, the reason is I traded for these shells to shoot in
my light 2 1/2" French guns, thinking they would be light and fun.
I took them dove hunting and they HURT me, so now
I shoot them in heavy 12s to eat up the recoil,
and they will kill doves cleanly at over 50 yards!!


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Strange, isn't it, that they would load a 2" shell, which was obviously intended to be used in lightweight guns, with such a load? 15/16 oz. at a more reasonable 1150 fps would have been a much more "balanced" load, and patterned better too, most likely.

I don't like that much velocity in anything but steel shot duck loads.

Thanks, SRH

I definitely get it, just curious after reading how the 3/4 ounce 28ga load is a good match for the .550 bore diameter and thought maybe the 2" load for .729 was a similar match. Reminds me of cane fly rods, there seems to be a rod length/line weight combination that just seems to be ideal, like a 7ft 4wt or an 8ft 6wt. That was the thought behind the question. It can get more technical like load data and fly rod tapers, but those would be tweeks to maximize performance.

I�ve shot some of those Lyalvale shells and they are stout. Too hot for my 2� I had at the time. Later guns were proofed like 2 1/2� guns and were built heavier which d feats the reason for being 2�. Worse my gun was IM and IM so anything inside 20 yards was ground meat. I reloaded shells using Federal paper hulls and was very happy but I was trying to do with a 12 a job which I could do with a 16,20 or even 28. So I sold my gun.

What Exactly makes the 3/4 oz load a "Good Match" for the .550 bore? What would make it a better match than firing 3/4 oz from a .615 bore (original 20 gauge load)?
What would make either a better match than 3/4 oz in a .729" bore (2" 12 gauge)?
Don't believe everything you read.

.550" bore dia. is nominal for the 28 ga. I don't think RA was saying it is better than any other "bore match", but that it is a "good" match. After having owned and used one on clays and birds I agree. It is an amazing thing how hard the 3/4 oz. 28 ga. load hits on both.

I'm not the only one to notice that, either. Bob Brister wrote that Neil Oldridge of Remington Arms Co. once told him that there were two mysteries in shotgun ammunition that he could not fully explain. One was why the 28 gauge is so highly efficient for the shot load it throws and the other was why the 12 ga. 3 1/4 - 1 1/4 pigeon load patterns beautifully in almost any barrel.

I know it's not the kind of empirical evidence you like, Miller, but too many people over the years have noticed the same smoke for there not to be fire there somewhere.

Best, SRH