I shot them a lot. All reloads in 7k range. I trimmed down 2 3/4 hulls to 2 1/2. Loaded them to 1100-1150 FPS. If you want Ill pm them to you. I hate posting reload information because people seem to think they can make minor substitutions without having major impacts on the loads. Worse half reloaded I know dont even own a set of scales to check things. No excuse for that except being lazy or stupid. Never trust charts to tell you what your machine drops.