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Thanks, James. I am struggling against this latest threat and it says something that I'm the only one who raised it on a forum attended by thousands of Canadian firearm owners. I thought oldstarfire or you would have been first on the barricades. Why weren't you?

Canada "close to being lost", if accurate, is because of a public malaise, fed-up citizens who've let go their responsibilities to their family, friends, community and country, demonstrated forcefully by the issue we're discussing: silence on a critical public issue.

Don't look to bogeymen to blame, as you've done. You separate the Conservative Party as the only one to save us from addle-headed authoritarianism. The Conservative Party of Canada split in twain last week at its annual meeting here in Halifax. Not a peep on gun control either.

I'll let your reflections of how I think to pass. I am proud of my father who was a communist when anyone not thinking of a better system at that time wasn't thinking at all. He was in his late teens and early 20s during the Great Depression.

The only reflection I care to make of your family is that it has always been notably progressive and pragmatic, its most influential contemporary member acclaimed as a Red Tory, "the most significant premier of Manitoba in the 20th century."

As for my "socialist leanings", here's Krugman in NYT today:

"By now everyone knows that conservatives routinely yell �socialist!� whenever anyone proposes doing something to help less fortunate members of our society � which is a key reason so many Americans now think favorably of socialism: If guaranteed health care is socialism, bring it on."

Organize, James. Organize, oldstarfire. I'll have at least a platoon on the firing line out here in the boonies. You have millions around to enlist.

I feel badly for Canada, but I don't believe what Americans think makes much difference up there. Canadian gun control is not our fight, and really not much our business.

I just hope the farmers in Saskatchewan this Fall are not mad enough at our President to take it out on visiting hunters. I recall there was something about cows one year that had the ranchers up in arms at us. Ranchers don't have many ducks anyhow.

Somehow, as an outsider I see Canada as sold out to progressiveness and that there's little the opposition can do about socialized medicine or gun control or anything else. At least we'll have a front row seat to watch how it all turns out...Geo

King Brown isn't struggling against the latest threat against Canadian gun owners. He and his kind... Liberal Left Anti-Gun Socialists... are the exact cause of this threat against law abiding gun owners.

King has spent his entire life supporting and defending those who infringe upon gun ownership rights, both here, and in Canada.

If this was almost anyone else, I might pause and think perhaps he had an epiphany that changed his heart. But I believe this is simply his panicked response to the idea that the majority here finally realize that he is nothing but a termite that has been quietly eating away at the structure of our 2nd Amendment. Where was this sentiment for the last 15 years when he said the things I previously quoted? Where was his support for politicians and judges who would preserve, protect, and defend our Constitutional Right?

This old Fraud asks, (paraphrasing for brevity) "Where is canvasback... where is oldstarfire... where are other Canadian gun owners during this latest attack on gun owners?" He beats his chest and acts like he is the shining beacon of hope for Canadian gun owners.

Well, they are exactly where they were during the fight to eliminate the Long Gun Registry... fighting on their home turf. They did not air that out here, although they mentioned it when they repeatedly warned us to not permit our lawmakers to take us down the same path. James (canvasback) and oldstarfire have been reliable supporters gun rights both at home in Canada, and here. They have been like the canary in the coal mine for years, and it's embarrassing to say they have been a stronger voice for the 2nd Amendment than most U.S. gun owners.

For King to now question canvasback and oldstarfire's commitment to gun rights shows just how low he will go to try to dishonestly reverse the anti-gun legacy he has created for himself.

The question in everyone's mind should be, where was King Brown when oldstarfire and canvasback and other Canadians were warning us what would happen if we allowed the type of politician King supports to be elected. The answer: King was lying to us and LULLING us and telling us we had nothing to worry about.

Here's a direct unedited QUOTE from King Brown. In it, he once again makes the Anti-Gunner's claim that the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms was invented or changed by the Supreme Court in 2008. And he lies to us and says Obama did nothing but talk about more gun control when he knows damn well his attempt to restrict guns, ammunition, and large cap magazines was his most stinging defeat:



Either King is lying to us here, or he is mentally ill. Or both.

Good! I've stirred you up! Well, I can't really take all the credit but I do enjoy our exchanges. I only have a few seconds now but I'll be back later today. Keep kicking King, and I will too!

Haha Mr. Brown. You crack me up. Those are the best sources you can cite to bolster your case for socialism? Paul Krugman is a left wing moonbat and former adviser to Enron. The NYT long ago ceased any pretense of being an actual newspaper. It is now just a collection of left wing talking points.

I don't make a case for socialism nor does Krugman, Mr. Goillini. I's a stretch to label anyone in any party in Canada or the US i.e. the schisms in all parties of how citizens want to be governed, their taxes redistributed, whatever newspapers they're reading. What better example than the man laying in state in Washington receiving your country's highest honours?

I know, I know, we�re all in this together. I suspected you brought topic up to give some nod to all inclusiveness. Didn�t you read Geo�s comment? You aren�t supposed to be lobbying in the US, eh.

As for that fellow laying in DC, what highest honor? I thought most folks just want to pay their respects?

Geo, you've been welcome company long enough in Canada to know that we are different from Americans.

The person who introduced "socialized medicine" in Canada was voted as our "Person of the 20th Century" so be assured it's here to stay.

Your defeatism concerning opposition to gun control is antithetical to our national consensus to overturn the long-gun registry.

We're the most closely integrated neighbours in the world but have hitherto differed respectfully on many issues. That won't change on Canada's part.

There is precedence of neighbours offering assistance on issues of mutual concern with my correspondence to the NRA and Senator McCain.

Your watching from the front seats at Canada rarely happens. It's welcomed and puzzling, the world totally focussed currently on the antics in Washington.

Hahaha, now the proud and avowed Socialist is trying to say he doesn't make a case for Socialism. Then in his very next post, he brings up one of his favorite subjects... Socialized Medicine.

What a crock of shit King. Now why don't you go back to your off-topic topic and try to convince a couple Libtard fools and idiots that the anti-gun rhetoric you posted here for 15 years never happened?

In your first post in this thread, you claimed to be " working up letters to our provincial Members of Parliament". But that is what you said you were going to do on August 4th in your post #520039 when you posted this:



So what you are telling us is that you have done nothing for nearly a month while the anti-gunners in Canada are hard at work once again.

Talk is cheap. I called it bullshit on August 4th and it's still bullshit now. See my post #520049 here:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...0073#Post520073

All you are doing is trying to fool people into thinking that you are against further gun restrictions. And you are insulting James and oldstarfire and all the other Canadians who actually work to defend their ownership of firearms and our as well.

You will do and say anything to cover the very distinct anti-gun tracks you have left here for a decade-and-a-half.

You didn't have "correspondence" with our NRA. You sent them your insane ideas about rolling over like whipped puppies, and they thankfully ignored you. Stop lying about that.

You are like a skunk with after shave lotion. The smell of your anti-gun , anti-NRA, and anti-2nd Amendment sentiments will always come through. It will be your legacy here. You did it to yourself, and you aren't going to put the Genie back into the bottle.

And really, what does any of King's dishonest blather have to do with the subject of Double Guns???

And where in hell are the Thread Police who get their panties in a knot and whine and cry to Dave Weber about non-doublegun topics???