I got a terrible stand, just as the Texas seedman told me I probably would in my soil type. Some came up and made multiple heads. I'm going to mow them down this week to help prevent the little songbirds from eating all the seeds out of the heads. They are supposed to repopulate themselves each year if you ever get a good stand. I saved half of the seed I bought and will overseed the same field this October/November to try one more time to get them established. But ..............big disappointment............ deer will eat them. They ate the tops out of many of my plants, but they don't eat them nearly as bad as the perodovik type that we normally plant.
I'm of the conclusion that the deer population here is so much denser than most of the country that there is nothing I can grow that they won't eat. Given a choice between getting totally rid of either deer or wild hogs I would keep the hogs in a heartbeat. I can handle them ...............I can't handle the deer.
SRH