Miller, I'd say "ignorant" is YOU . . saying that you haven't seen claims about the thousands of rounds fired, haven't seen claims about the special stocks until THIS THREAD--when YOU are the one who moved that very information from the 800X thread to this thread. About the only thing you got right is that you're certainly NOT a fancy writer. You can't even untangle all the mistakes you've made.
I have no idea what's been "implied" over years of discussions concerning the guns used in the IMI tests. I included what is, to my knowledge, Gough Thomas' most complete quote on the subject of the tests. I even put the little marks fancy writers use (" ")--and learned in junior high English class--to make sure that those who are NOT ignorant understand that the information in question comes not from me, but from what Mr. Thomas wrote in "Shotguns and Cartridges".
Miller, I can't help it if what Thomas wrote is new to you. Hey, I'm just helping you do your research. Now you know what Thomas wrote. I can't provide any further details about the tests--and neither can you. But since you agree that fast-burning powders do indeed produce less recoil than slow-burning powders in loads of the same velocity with the same shot charge, I don't know what the heck you're arguing about anyhow. And apparently neither do you.
