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I would be interested in professional hunters' opinions, but I would not want that heavy cocking safety on a stopping rifle. It is fine for hunting, when you have time to get into position and line up your shot, but in thick bush serious trouble can appear instantaneously just yards away. I would find the effort to cock/disengage the safety too distracting and clumsy when milliseconds count. Check out the Africa safari forum. All the top PH prefer this mechanism compared to a regular safety.
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A few do because they dont have to worry as much about getting shot. Likewise they are carrying their own guns for backup so in the event the client fumbles too much with it they can take care of business. not something Id want on a dangerous game rifle.
Are we sure it weighs 15lbs? Thats a heavy .577ne or light .600ne.
Congrats on the new rifle!
A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC. Mineola, TX Michael08TDK@yahoo.com 682-554-0044
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I suspect that if things get "iffy" all of a sudden, you wouldn't have any trouble at all cocking it. As far as "what to do with it", You never know if you get a chance to go to Africa. If you don't already have a suitable rifle when the chance comes, you won't have time to get one, work up loads, sight in, and shoot it enough to comfortable with it. Mike
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As a gunmaker says, there is a difference between being a client and being the guy out in front. Further, in a hunting situation, you usually have some warning if trouble, say a wounded animal, is brewing. If just walking in the bush, trouble can be on you instantly. After 40 years of using a normal tang safety, it would take me a great deal of practice to have confidence in instinctively cocking the Krieghoff against resistance when a crabby buffalo boils out of the bush 15 yards away, not a situation I want to complicate further. Especially when carrying the rifle by the muzzle over a shoulder (they get heavy). My opinion only, of course, and the Krieghoff is indeed a very nice hunting rifle.
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I like it. I long for a double rifle...more for the nostalgia and the mystique of Africa that often tails these guns than anything else. I have a Mauser actioned .458 Win Mag that will most likely never be used on anything other than paper, but it's a big bore gun that I find interesting. Congrats on a fine gun.
I don't think I would be in too much of a hurry to get 20 gauge barrels for it, however. That would be a hefty 20!
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At 15 lbs., it's way too heavy, even for a .470. It should weigh 10 1/2-11 lbs. max. Beautiful piece regardless. Recoil from a .300 win. Mag is around 35 ft./lbs., so if twice that @ 70, pretty rough, but @ 3 times, brutal. However, if it actually does weigh 15 lbs. it should not be that bad. JR
Last edited by John Roberts; 07/21/18 10:07 PM.
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I would be interested in professional hunters' opinions, but I would not want that heavy cocking safety on a stopping rifle. It is fine for hunting, when you have time to get into position and line up your shot, but in thick bush serious trouble can appear instantaneously just yards away. I would find the effort to cock/disengage the safety too distracting and clumsy when milliseconds count. I posed a similar question to the South African PHs I spent some time w/ & for each game / predator animal(& the jackal rates up there @ the top for cunning and instilling fear in a farmer's flock) the bullet is the 1st concern(within a certain diameter of course). Next is the cartridge which will basically determine the platform be it bolt, double, single, etc. When I mentioned a DR chambering they always, always lost favour & sort of cast it aside / dismissed it. But the PHs want you to use something that is 2nd hand to you; an extension of yourself. Something that you perform all the task on the bells & whistles on the platform without thinking. After being in a bona fide "iffy" situation, I now know I would prefer a hammer DR(SxS) because that is mainly what I shoot. I can shoot a stacked arm well but I for one would not rely on a single trigger by no means. I was too spent to go on an all night Jackal hunt, but that is now on my list. Lovely Krieghoff and there's nothing short 'bout it nor the chambering. Shoot it well & often and become intimate w/ it. Then travel w/ it to the Dark Continent & put it to the test. Cheers, Raimey rse
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Well, if never used for the purpose intended, it is "artwork" and collectible. Has more uses than other artwork such as a painting on the wall. Money can be spent on a whole lot less. Gil
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True, but just like my Dad & Street Rods, how long are DRs going to hold favour in a dwindling pool of collectors? We are a dying breed?? From being around my Dad's passion for years, I know them in & out, but that his passion is not mine. I only acquired & retain the info for the 4 grandsons....
Cheers,
Raimey rse
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