I'm a hunter that uses a gun. I've done both the driven and the rough shooting. To tell you the truth driven doesn't do it for me. Yes the birds are usually quite hard to hit but, I was raised poor and to have someone else do all the hard work of moving the birds just doesn't sit right with me. I hope others enjoy it, it's just not for me. When it's time to sit down at the table I enjoy the meal much more when I feel that I have worked for my game.