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Have not actually checked it out so do not know if it is of any benefit or not.
I do recall though some years back reading one person's opinion to take the point where you forward hand gripped the gun in shooting & extend a line from there to the center of the butt plate/pad etc. For correct pitch make the butt plate perpendicular to that line.
This would quite obviously show a fat beavertail needing less pitch than a splinter & an O/U needing still less. As I said though I have not checked any of my guns to see how they "Pitched Up" to this standard, have always relied on the standing against the wall method or measurement.
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Have not actually checked it out so do not know if it is of any benefit or not.
I do recall though some years back reading one person's opinion to take the point where you forward hand gripped the gun in shooting & extend a line from there to the center of the butt plate/pad etc. For correct pitch make the butt plate perpendicular to that line.
This would quite obviously show a fat beavertail needing less pitch than a splinter & an O/U needing still less. As I said though I have not checked any of my guns to see how they "Pitched Up" to this standard, have always relied on the standing against the wall method or measurement. That methodology is wonderfully vague as you pointed out, not to mention a couple other variables that could be introduced! I'm sure that are all sorts of geometric relationships that change as pitch (however it may be described) changes. Unfortunately, wonderful as numbers are, not all numbers are meaningful, useful, or necessarily obtainable.
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That methodology is wonderfully vague as you pointed out, not to mention a couple other variables that could be introduced! I'm sure that are all sorts of geometric relationships that change as pitch (however it may be described) changes. Unfortunately, wonderful as numbers are, not all numbers are meaningful, useful, or necessarily obtainable.
I was hoping that a true expert on everything would weigh in! So why don't you tell us your thoughts (or thots) on stock pitch Dr. Wanker? How do you measure pitch, and how do you determine what stock pitch is best to provide the best shooting results? We're all waiting for someone like you or Jagermeister to enlighten us. Please share your shotgun wisdom. By the way, I love your tag-line. Did you get it from a coffee mug? 
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Thanks to all for the explanations about pitch. Would it be excessive negative pitch or positive pitch causing my guns to "bounce" off my shoulder? mumbling simpleton...Geo
I can adjust the pitch on the plated gun with a shim and perhaps the checked gun with a moleskin patch. If I only knew which end to start with?
By the way, I shoot both guns well and they both fit; they just bounce
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I know, I know just put a thin pad on both and forget it...Geo
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George, it is unlikely that pitch is your problem if the stocks are unaltered. That is not to say that the pitch is NOT the problem so you should certainly check that.
I'd be going for slippery instead and some sticky kinda vest/pad thing may tell the tale on that. And perhaps a firmer grip on the gun.
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May be Dr. Sane, I just don't have the problem with other guns...Geo
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.....and a bit more mumbo jumbo, Im guessing Wonko is right and pitch isnt Georges problem. Not being a gun fitter, but skilled at mumbo jumbo, Im wondering about LOP and gun weight. Are we talking about a very light gun George? What about LOP, is the gun short for you? Those light guns with shortie stocks seem to jump around a lot, but agin, this is mumbo jumbo...talking.
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Are the bouncy guns straight grips?
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The two guns are a 12ga Director Grade BSA with straight grip and a 12ga Laurona boxlock with loose pistol grip. Both fit and neither are particularly light. They both do seem to have buttstocks that end almost straight up and down. Could be Dr. Sane is right about my grip; at 70 I may be losing it. But its just these two guns so far...Geo
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