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The Lefever forum (http://lefeverforum.informe.com/index.php) is not functioning. Neither the administrator or I have enough computer savvy to be able to do much about it. We are looking for a sympathetic gun nut to help us restore the functionality of the forum. Please PM me if you can help.

Here's a link that will still get you to the Lefever Firearms Forum. It appears that the forum index has been locked. But starting from here, I was able to post a new thread as a test, and then delete it. PM sent.

http://lefeverforum.informe.com/lefever-firearms-df3.html

Direct URLs to the Lefever Forum Main Forums

News:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=031607f7e03d2052ca7 3960791d83688

FAQ:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=f06423b800912e742b2 47486befb7e8a

Firearms:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=f06423b800912e742b2 47486befb7e8a

Photos:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=f06423b800912e742b2 47486befb7e8a

Research & Library:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=f06423b800912e742b2 47486befb7e8a

Fix It:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=11&sid=031607f7e03d2052ca 73960791d83688

Loader�s Bench:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=f06423b800912e742b2 47486befb7e8a

Lefever Links:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=031607f7e03d2052ca7 3960791d83688

Sell/Buy/Trade:
http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewforum.php?f=8&sid=031607f7e03d2052ca7 3960791d83688
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Keith you are the man! Bobby

Hi guys. ADG here. I'm the owner and one of the admins for the Lefever Forum site. I sent Dr. Bob those direct URLs to the sub-forums of the site that still reside on the Informe.com servers and Keith was kind enough to pass them along to you. To save me having to retype what I've sent to Dr. Bob and Keith, I'll just cut-and-paste this here:

"Yes, those spammers are definitely up to no good. However, we've been dealing with those idiots every day for the last seven years on the site. That's why we have the registration process set to only be fully active after an admin (myself or BirDogEd) approves the registration. So even though they show up as registered users they can't actually post or contact members to spam them. Ed and myself usually delete up to 20 spam accounts per day. That's one reason we've been able to withstand their attacks for so long. Clicking on their link WOULD send you to the darker regions of the web so DO NOT DO IT!

I'm afraid what has happened is that the hosting outfit, Informe.com, has finally either given up and folded or has locked a lot of their client's websites. This weekend we had an unprecedented number of spambots trying to sign up, so perhaps this was a precautionary measure taken by Informe. However, it's certainly possible that the spammers have won, and one has gotten past our vetting process and has been able to gain some sort of Administrative rights. All of the administration functionality has been locked, so Ed and I can't delete any of the spambots as is our normal routine. The index page has been reset to default so none of our sub-forums show up although they still exist on the servers and can be reached by using the little "Jump to: [Select a forum]" dropdown menu in the lower right-hand corner of some of the user links pages at the top of the index page. I can't download or back up any of the site either, so it's a real mess. I've noticed a number of the other websites on the Informe severs are down also.

I've contacted Informe but don't hold out much hope of any response. I believe the servers reside in Eastern Europe so that probably tells you something right there. This site was made with basically a canned template provided by Informe so all setup was done in the cloud. No php or MySQL databases that i can download now, at least none that I know of with my limited knowledge of how the back end of these things work.

Thanks for checking in.

Larry"

If in fact the site has been hacked and the spammer has been able to attain Admin rights he/she might be able to start spamming the registered/active members. I can't delete members from the Admin panel any more and I'm not sure if members can deactivate their accounts from their Users page. This is just another instance of greed and maliciousness screwing up a good thing. By the way, I used to post here under the user name "Doc Krantz" back in the day.

If someone was willing to take one for the team and try and delete your account, it would be most helpful in case the forum has indeed been totally compromised. I think I need to try and remain active for as long as possible or I would attempt it. At least if members can delete their accounts I can email them and let them know (all 1,079 of them.)

Larry

I just enrolled and it says


Your account has been created. However, this forum requires account activation by the administrator. An e-mail has been sent to them and you will be informed when your account has been activated

ADG or BirDogEd are the administrators??

AND the search functions seems to work fine for me

Mike

Hi, Mike. I did just receive an email stating that you had registered. Usually either myself or BirDogEd would activate the account. The distressing thing is that the last 3 obvious spambots that registered today did not trigger an email to me, so I can only assume that someone/thing has been intercepting those registrants and activating them - Ed and I are not activating ANYTHING at this point. I won't activate your account either, so if you ARE activated it won't have been by me or Ed.

Since I assume you are new to the Lefever Forum, it used to be that anyone could see all our various subforums on the index page. Now you only see a generic "The Lefever Forum - General" link that leads nowhere. However, as you've found out the search function is still active. All our various posts, etc still live on the Informe.com servers but just can't be accessed from the index page. Additionally all of mine and Ed's administrative panels (hidden from regular users behind a password) are no longer functioning so we can't delete the spambots.

It's also been verified by Keith that once you are an active member you can't delete your own profile. Only an admin can do that, and Ed and I don't have that ability any more. We're totally locked out.

Have tried unsuccessfully to contact Informe.com about the issue, even going so far as to threaten to pull EU Interpol into the matter (not that that probably scares Informe.com in the least. I believe their servers reside in Eastern Europe - whois.com shows them hiding behind a service provider in western USA.)

ADG
Good luck on your efforts
Yes, just as you are new here, I would have been new there
Mike

ADG and BirDogEd, please don't give up on your great site!

I probably look at it as often as this one, and perhaps have posted there a bit more often. Two great sites for the doublegun community, and I hope someone can help you get back full function. I've used the "Posted since your last visit" and "Search" to look around in the past few days.

Thanks Terry. You've been such a major supporter of the Lefever Forum from the beginning. It's a shame, but I'm afraid we've lost control of the site and Informe.com (our "hosting" service) either doesn't care or can't do anything about the situation.

Best,

Larry

Stay tuned for what we come up with as a substitute. We are looking for something within our website www.lefevercollectors.com

Dr. Bob,

Thats definitely the way to go, if that domain is hosted in the U.S. Just add "/forum" to that domain and thats pretty logical.

I have used SubHub for hosting in the past ans they were seemless. They are headquartered in the UK, but much of their servers are in North Carolina.

NDG (Lefever forum "Sentry44)

OK a new Lefever forum has been established.
The rules are simple
1. You must register and participate under your real name. No "handles, fake names". You are responsible for what you post

2. Civility is mandated. No vulgarities, name calling, or other antisocial discourse.

3. A verifiable Email is required. It will not be given out or used in any way other than to contact you regarding forum news or behavior.

4. Please confine discussions to subjects of interest to Lefever collectors and enthusiasts. We will not tolerate religious or political discussions. Take that stuff somewhere else.

5 Please do not hijack threads (discussions). If you wish to change the subject, start a new post.

The link is www.lefevercollectors.com/forum

I am just setting this up. The basic structure is there, the bells and whistles are not yet final.

Excellent! I just registered

I also registered
Thank you
Mike

Thank you, I have signed on.

John

Remember when you register your user name is your REAL name. No fake usernames. Even if "everybody knows who I am".
On the Lefever forum I am Bob Decker.

Confirmed registration. Thanks Bob.

Photo insertion directly from your computer without a hosting site or Photobucket extortion fees is now active.

hope this new group isnt all anal about answering questions about nitro specials or Ithaca Lefever A Grades....like the old forum was.....

Anal? Don't know about anal, but I wouldn't deliberately go to the Parker board to ask about L.C. Smith's. Or the L.C. Smith board to inquire about A.H. Fox's. If I want to know about Ithaca's, I would go to an Ithaca board.
I certainly wouldn't consider it rude or anal to be pointed in the right direction.

John

I have been a member of the old board since its beginning. When someone asks about a Western Arms, Nitro Special or A grade they are told the "Truth" about their gun. It spite of the marking Lefever Arms Co it is a Lefever in name only. It was designed, built & sold by Ithaca.

These guns have no more connection to Daniel Myron Lefever than a Savage Fox B has to Ansley H Fox. I personally assume that when someone asks questions about a gun they want to know its "True" history.

I do not get my Drawers in a wad if told my old W Richards has no connection (Except the name) to the renowned firm of Westley Richards. Actually I knew that even before I acquired it.

All I can tell anyone is "IF" you don't want to know, then don't ask.

aye

So sorry to hear this has happened. Sign of the times I suppose. I just registered.

Not to worry. I may have one of the older photos on there look under Sweet EE 20 in pics and it�s still up! Links working

I seriously doubt that links to the old Lefever forum are going to work for long given that it is now completely unsupported.

I would encourage those who are interested in Lefevers and the history behind the Lefever guns to join the new forum. There are places to archive photos and any threads you want to retrieve from the old forum while it is still partially available.

The only requirement is that you register under your real name. You do need a valid Email address but that is never revealed to any third party. Private messaging, without revealing your Email address is available to preserve your privacy.

I will admit the required use of your real name is an attempt to avoid personal attacks and reduce some of the antagonism that arises on this forum. We don't see that crap at Side by Side shows and shoots when you are face to face. There is plenty of discussion and no shortage of opinion at those events but I can't remember the last time I heard a face to face personal attack at one of those venues. If you based your opinion of side by side shooters on this forum You might conclude that there are a lot of rude and downright nasty individuals among the crowd. You would be hard pressed to garner that opinion after attending a Side by Side shoot like the upcoming Northeast Side by Side.