Hello,
A member on shotgunworld.com recommended I pick the brains of you lot.
I recently picked up a so called "Belgian guild gun" over/under 12g, but after taking it apart I now realize most of the parts are from France and it's likely a french guild gun. I assume the seller was grossly misinformed.
![](https://image.ibb.co/hqTEBn/IMG_9807.jpg)
![](https://image.ibb.co/m8BCxS/IMG_9812.jpg)
![](https://image.ibb.co/d8FuBn/IMG_9809.jpg)
![](https://image.ibb.co/dR0i47/IMG_9813.jpg)
I'm interested in learning anything I can about this recent purchase. I'm not interested in determining/justifying it's value as much as I am uncovering it's history and seeing if anyone else has a similar shotgun.
Anyone have an idea on a rough manufacture date/decade? I'm having a hard time finding specific information on anything that looks like this particular shotgun or other over/under guild guns. Most information I can find is on SxS french shotguns.
I've done as much research as I can crawling this and other forums. This is what I know:
Marked RPF on receiver for "Rivolier Pere et Fils" or "Rivolier Pere & Sons"
![](https://image.ibb.co/dxkY47/IMG_9802.jpg)
![](https://image.ibb.co/mF8sxS/IMG_9811.jpg)
PT with crown on breach
![](https://image.ibb.co/nuPMrn/IMG_9803.jpg)
CMR with (RPF) under the bottom barrel
![](https://image.ibb.co/kc8EBn/IMG_9804.jpg)
"Portee Garantie P. Delalle"
![](https://image.ibb.co/fA55HS/IMG_9818.jpg)
Top and bottom barrel marked with the same St. Etienne proof and 18.4 65 (65mm) and there is a number of 5556? Also, more RPF and PT crown marks. There is also an unreadable mark that just looks like a barcode on the metal that joins the two barrels.
![](https://image.ibb.co/ciJgrn/IMG_9819.jpg)
Any additional insight or info regarding this shotgun's history would be much appreciated!
Also, curious what i need to look for when determining if this shotgun is safe to shoot. I will be using RST 12ga., 2 1/2", Lite, Vel. 1175, 1 oz., 7 1/2 shot loads. Lockup is super tight and I don't see any signs of bulging or honing or good-ole-boy gunsmithing.