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All I did was to pass along info stated by a technician wring n a Ballistics Lab, I suspect he knew a bit more about the subject than Me, You & Wonko combined. Follow it or ignore it, no skin off my back either way, I just passed it along.
The problem here is I think two fold & does make perfect sense. 1st, when the crimp folds down around the projecting petals of the wad it creates a resistance to the wads moving 2nd, with the light shot load the wad is not compressed to its normal extent leaving the wad "Stiffer" than normal.
According to this lab this has definitely been "Proven" to raise pressures to a excessive level. Do with it as you Jolly Well please, personally I will follow their advise.
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The problem here is I think two fold & does make perfect sense. 1st, when the crimp folds down around the projecting petals of the wad it creates a resistance to the wads moving 2nd, with the light shot load the wad is not compressed to its normal extent leaving the wad "Stiffer" than normal.
I can only say it again - neither of those contentions make any sense to me at all. How any of that could have an effect greater than the different crimps and really significant differences in crimp depth I've seen and made is quite beyond me. I'd like to see a 3/4oz loaded in a 1 1/8 cup and crimped to look like anything approaching normal. No way that crimp is going to do anything but fold right into the case. I'm perfectly willing to be convinced otherwise - show me the pix of the loads and the data. Stan - I thot I blew out $/time on stupid projects but you got me by miles. Flip that tiny crap and get a decent 28ga. BTW where'd you score the trigger for the tank model Perazzi finally?
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Well, Charles, my definition of stupid and yours are miles apart, is all I can say. If you had ever been on a dove shoot with maybe 20-25 other guns, been the only one shooting a .410, and also been the first man off the field with a full limit you might understand. I bought a new Italian trigger made by Marcello Giuliani. Rackley fitted it to my gun, which required a bit more than I was able to do because of the age of my gun. Mine is an early Winchester import. I shot a round of sporting with it yesterday morning. Wonderful trigger. http://www.donrackleygunparts.com/# SRH
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yes - I've gotten several things from Marcello directly. Lovely work. I certainly have to admire your shooting skills tho your choice of guns is questionable hahaha
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Whats better about the Giuliani trigger? The generic Perazzi triggers, even the old ones seem to be pretty good triggers. Just wondering....
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I don't recall anybody saying they are better, buzz. Who said that?
I have no reason to think they're better than an original Perazzi trigger. But......... they are in stock in Texas, and can be had at a moments notice. And, they are mighty fine quality.
Maybe original Perazzi parts can be had quickly, too. I dunno.
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No one here said that. I guess I just assumed you were upgrading. Are they mechanical or inertia? All the old perazzi triggers are inertia.
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They're inertia, and are made exactly like the originals, as far as I can tell. My original is at Philip's, with the left sear being recut, to become my spare. I wasn't trying to upgrade. I really don't think that is possible. I was just wanting a new trigger that had never been messed with to be my everyday trigger. I am extremely pleased with what I got.
Take a look at Don's website. I included a link on an earlier post. There are pics of the different models available.
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I looked at the photos. They all appear to be inertia. I think precision gold puts out a mechanical trigger for a Perazzi. Ever tried one of those? I havent shot one of the mechanical triggers but Id like to just to see.
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Never have, buzz. My original Perazzi trigger lasted a long, long time. I had borrowed a trigger out of a friend's gun a few times when mine was doubling, but this is the first Perazzi "trigger group " I have ever bought.
Thinking about it, I really have no reason to want to go to a mechanical trigger. Mine has never failed to reset. Not once. The only issue I have ever had was the second sear (top barrel) letting go on recoil from the bottom barrel, and that has nothing to do with whether it is inertia or mechanical.
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