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CCM #504208 02/07/18 09:46 AM
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80 grains of BP increases the weight of ejecta, admittedly by a small percentage.

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Stan I am not familiar with Detcord, but assume this is a "Detonating" cord. These were/are used it setting off charges of high explosives when it is desired they go off simultaneously. Detonating powders are a whole different ball game. When one end "Goes Off" the whole length Goes off. Thus you could connect one charge with a 25' cord & another with a 150' cord. If the other ends are Touched off together you will be unable to detect a difference in when the two charges fire.

This would not be the case if Black Powder chains were being used with this much difference in length. Propellants suitable for use in firearms, whether black or smokeless, burn, they do not detonate. If they did they would Blow the gun to smithereens every time a trigger was pulled, such is the character of detonating powders.

One possible tip on the flint, which you may already be aware of, but do not fill the priming pan above the touch hole but just up to the bottom of it. The flash will immediately hit the touch hole igniting the powder inside. If the hole is covered the powder has to burn down to its level before ignition can occur. Admittedly a very short interval, but detectable, which also goes to show the entire charge does not go at once.

I have seen some high Quality flints so loaded on which I could detect no discernible difference in ignition time between them & a percussion, never sell a good flinter short.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this exchange with you Stan. Nice to talk things over in a decent & civilized manner, of course that is always the case with your posts.


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6400 meters/second is pretty fast isn't it, Miller?

I had a dear friend, who shot flinters a lot and was a national champion in offhand competition, who used to bet percussion guys that he could load and fire more aimed shots in 60 seconds with it than they could with their cap lock. They would invariably take the bet. He could smoke them everytime, pardon my pun. He would load the rifle with a very light charge of 4F, then after seating the ball he would tilt the rifle 90 degrees to it's right side, bump the stock a couple times, and enough 4F would trickle out the touch hole to prime the closed pan. Then a quick mount and Bang!

I won't say how many he has gotten off in a minute, because I cannot remember for certain, but it was more than anyone would believe without seeing him.

All my best to you Miller, SRH


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Originally Posted By: moses
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pretty near the same time.

Does not mean all at once.

Thank you for the above clarification Drew.
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Thanks to all for the information. I'll have gun checked by gun smith to see if barrels are as good as I think they are. If all good, I'll load BP in brass and plastic, see which shoots best. I do have a antique roll crimper for the plastic. Looking forward to pheasant season!

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Originally Posted By: Saskbooknut
The only issue, aside from cleaning, that black powder loads introduce over RST low pressure smokless is increased recoil effect on old stocks.
Sufficient lube keeps fouling soft for many shots. We shoot BP trap using cartridge blocks so we can put a dab of Crisco lube on the mouth of each cartridge.


I use a lubed fibre wad. No fuss and no mess which I think lining the exterior of a shell with cristco would create. By the way where in SK are you shooting BP Trap?


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6400 meters/second is pretty fast isn't it, Miller?


Stan;
I do not know where that speed came from. Don't recall it being anything I posted.


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BP Trap at Saskatoon Muzzle Loading club.

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Thanks. I'm currently in Regina and the trap club is reluctant to let me shoot BP in a squad of smokeless shooters. Really means I shoot by my self. I have gone to the Saskatoon Trap club and they looked at me crosseyed when I asked to use a Remington F trap with BP loads


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