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#504173 02/06/18 08:46 PM
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Based on posts I have been reading I have taken next step in my obsession with double guns by picking up a vintage hammer gun. I was a little discouraged reading some of negative comments regarding H. Pieper shotguns until I came across this site. I am not sure of the grade of the 12 guage H. Pieper I purchased but the engraving and wood to metal fit appears exceptional.

In one of posts I read about damage that can result from carrying the hammer double open. I did not think of that as a problem. I am so accustomed to doing so when following dogs in NAVHDA and AKC tests. Fortunately I carried the gun closed for the most part given the heavy snow Sunday.

Are there any other tips in using the hammer gun that I should be aware of? I am using low pressure 2.5" Vintager shells so I have that covered.

I definitely have taken my double gun addiction to another level. Any recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks, Phil

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I carry all types of guns open when following NAVHDA trials.

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I carry all types of guns open when following NAVHDA trials.

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Come on over to the dark side. When you develop a bona fide hammergun vice/addiction, you'll find yourself trying to pull back the hammers on all other scattergun types. Some makes allow you to breech the scattergun with the hammers back while others require you let the tension off the hammers in order to breech.

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" A gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears! " Good on you. If the springs are too strong to easily cock the mainsprings might be able to be thinned to make them less "manly".

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On a hammer gun make certain it as an adequate barrel check, many do't. I have a H Pieper, Modified Diana which has the lower rib & forearm lug loose because it had no barrel check. This could as easily occurred from carrying it open or simply opening it too had, I have no idea which.

Personally I "NEVER Ever" carry a gun open afield, either hammer or hammer-less. There is no more efficient way to twist an underlug than to take an unexpected tumble with an open gun. When & if this should occur you may well land across the "Middle"of the gun. Tremendous force an be applied to the Hinge area in this case. The gun is much less apt to receive major damage if Closed & Bolted.

I have only taken one major fall while hunting. My gun was loaded, closed & bolted. It did not jar off, possibly because of the overhead sears. It received some minor nicks & scratcehs but no major damage, could well have been far different had it been open, I did fall right across its hinge area.

Take this for what its worth to you, it didn't cost you anything, but look at your gun open & think about what I have said, I seriously believe if you do you can well visualize what I am saying.


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I carry a hammer gun closed. With the hammers down it is almost impossible for the gun to fire. And when the hammers are back I am acutely conscious it is dangerous and handle it accordingly. In some ways I think they are the safest guns of all. Yes, a hammer slipping off your thumb can result in a firing so be sure to always have the gun pointed safely when cocking or uncocking. I like to point mine towards the ground when doing either.

As fine a upland bird gun as was ever built. A early Charles Daly 12 with 28" cylinder bores. Wild Texas quail.



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The gun looks great as do the birds. What year is the Charles Daly from?

Definitely appreciate the tips. As far as safety it is obvious that the hammers offer an extra measure of that. I run pointers which allows me time to pull hammers back.

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The gun looks great as do the birds. What year is the Charles Daly from?

Definitely appreciate the tips. As far as safety it is obvious that the hammers offer an extra measure of that. I run pointers which allows me time to pull hammers back.

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Very nice Daly Joe! Birds should be proud to be taken with that double. I carry my hammer guns closed and my hand right behind the hammers. Cock on the rise first barrel of choice and then cock the second hammer if needed and remount. 2-piper's point about a barrel check is worth thinking about as carried open the pressure on the barrel lug can cause it to work loose. I've had to have two nice guns put right after the lugs became loose. One was just a bad solder job on a sleeved gun , the other, not sure but I can see where pressure from the open barrels could cause it to loosen.

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