Ted, you are right on Sagitair.  As Ted and Larry have pointed out numerous times, this from VC:  "Unfortunately, we are unable to give any information on any of our production which is over 30 years old as almost all our archives were destroyed by a flood when we moved our headquarters in 1980." So VC serial numbers would need to be rebuilt using other markers as done with Reilly and others.  VC made - what...maybe 500,000 guns from 1890-1980?  That would be an epic task...but I'll see what can be done.