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WE have elitists here also.
Mike

I think you have made my point somewhat, Cvbk. Collector=narrow, accumulator=broad. It's just an opinion based on many years' observations dealing in firearms. Pretty obvious I hit a nerve or stepped on your opinion on this.

I went back and changed my post to "in my opinion..." Maybe you can feel less offended about my post now. Like I said, not judging, just saying.

John, thanks for the clarification and "adjustment".

You did hit a nerve and I apologize if my response sounded too harsh. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I have a problem with the "secret handshake" guys, not just with guns but anything. I've seen too many good people put off because "the club" was too hard to join.

I may be too egalitarian. LOL

It makes no difference to me what anyone on the boards collects and or shoots. I like ostentatious people because they usually have something nice to show and I like to look at pictures of fancy guns. I'm a mainly handgun shooter and I love to convert three long guns I own into one seriously thinking about Austrian or German Drilling as replacement. A good one can be had for $3000 or little more just like they were 30 years ago. By good one I mean rifle barrel in caliber for which commercial ammo is readily available.

I would say hoarding will lead to "trail of tears". Think about one of the Southern members trying to liquidate his collection. Do you folks want to find yourself in the same predicament? I tell you a little secret about what will happen to hoarders guns after their passing. In most cases the family will take them to local dealer and sell entire thing wholesale to get rid of it. Does that make you feel a little better?

I have an opinion about hoarding that has been formed by talking with my Mother about this very thing.
After the recent passing of my Father & my Mother having a stroke & going into care, I was left to clear out the house & dispose of possessions. So, so much stuff, just stuff that two hoarders had gathered over many years. So much with no or little value because that is how come it is there in the first place. A poverty mentality developed from being children of the depression & WW2 era as a basic training ground in thriftiness.
To the washing out & keeping endless amounts of margarine containers, yoghurt, ice cream, plastic bags, plastic cutlery, clothes, jars & bottles, in fact anything that even remotely looks like being able to repurpose. The thrift thing means that you keep your money & get something for nothing.
Thing is, no depression now & a time of prosperity & plenty, so new things keep coming & the saved stuff never gets used for what it was saved for. Problem.
The basic training mentality of thriftiness does not change & gets a modern title of "hoarder" because they collected stuff for the future when it may not be there. Just as it was not there in their past.

Something of value has an intrinsic value that was there all along, even if purchased as a bargain. It therefore has a sale price as it is not junk.
Whether this forms the basis of a collection, sometimes, if there are many, maybe.

My Mother has a collection of rocks that she picked up while walking the dog & in car parks & such. She collected them on the basis of them being so close to spherical that some you would think were machine made. Worthless rocks, but still a collection. The empty margarine containers are then a collection too, even though they are hoarded.

The idea that hoarders collect trash stuff & collectors collect things of value is flawed too.
It seems that a reasonably minded collector turns into a hoarder when the collection overtakes & goes crazy. The persons ability to keep order goes too & there is no room left to move about the collection of stuff. No one quite knows any more what is actually in or under the layers of mixed stuff.

I am transitioning from collector to hoarder & need to pull back.
It, however is intrinsic to my blood. Grin
O.M

And this brings us to yet another category that hasn't been mentioned... the Tire-kicker and gun counter drooler.

Poor Jagermeister doesn't own any double guns. He apparently has a new dream of selling a rifle and a couple short-barreled pump shotguns in order to buy buy a drilling that will cost an estimated $3000.00 or more. Ain't never going to happen! The three long guns he claims to own are not worth anywhere near 3 grand, and Jagermeister is never going to do more than talk and drool on the counters of gun shops that have used drillings on their racks.

How many years have you been looking for the perfect double at the perfect price Jagermeister? Do you know what's even more sad and tragic than the guy who died and had his family sell a bunch of his guns for wholesale? A pathetic tire-kicker who did all of his shooting and gun collecting in his imagination, and who pretended to be knowledgeable about guns he had absolutely zero actual experience with.

I'm a discerning collector with a very narrow focus. I like guns that go bang. And unlike Jagermeister, I don't support politicians who threaten that narrow interest.

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O.M

Re the elitist thing.

Hoarding has an effect on prices. Many are prevented from owning one good gun because a few accumulate/hoard a whole bunch and prices climb beyond the reach of non elitists.

Guns are parts of a collective industrial culture. Preventing access to those that study it, even enjoy it, without owning is probably a lot more elitist than what Gough Thomas had implied.

Access can be the relatively cost free act of posting (anonymously for the security conscious) photos of those hallowed collections, and there is not much of that going on.

My late paternal grandmother had a black belt in hoarding. During WWII she had more sugar than Cuba produced annually. She had aluminum foil balls the size of basketballs and rubber band balls half the size. Family legend was that she had kitchen drawer marked "string, too short to save." When I was 3 or 4 I lost a tooth on her lawn. I was distressed because I wasn't going to get that quarter because I had no tooth to place under the pillow. She found the tooth in the grass. Years later I learned it was my father's tooth that she had saved from his childhood. In the stairwell closet, she stored the leg brace my dad wore after suffering a leg wound in WWII.

�Guns are part of a collective industrial culture. Preventing access to those that study it, even enjoy it.......�. This statement rings of socialism in my humble opinion. Are you a socialist SL?