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No. The oxides are still there, the color just isn't. When I had my Charlin done at Turnbull's, the advice he gave me was to coat them with something.
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Ted Did he give you any suggestions of what to use? TM
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Would not doubt that UV and moisture could combine to harm colors. It seems a consensus from most of our knowledgeable here that a modern poly coating makes a lot of difference over nothing.
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We all believed Oscar Gaddy that they do not fade. If I remember, one board member showed pictures of a gun he bought that was in a store window in its open case for many years and the side facing the window was faded and the other side was like new. Maybe someone else will remember it better or have some facts.
So many guns, so little time!
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No. The oxides are still there, the color just isn't. When I had my Charlin done at Turnbull's, the advice he gave me was to coat them with something.
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Ted Did he give you any suggestions of what to use? TM He did not. As previously mentioned, I have coated then with Krylon spray bomb lacquer, Brownell's Baking lacquer, Duco crystal clear Automotive lacquer, and Del-Glo catalyzed polyureathane clear coat. I was satisfied with them all. But, I'm not sure how to get catalyzed poly or baking lacquer off, should the need arise. Best, Ted
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uv light fades other colors...why not shotgun receiver case colors?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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No. The oxides are still there, the color just isn't. When I had my Charlin done at Turnbull's, the advice he gave me was to coat them with something.
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Ted I, too, had a long conversation about CC photosensitivity and protection for the coating of "stuff" that makes the colors with Dr. Gaddy. #1. The "stuff" is a very thin coating only loosely bound to the surface of the steel. It does not require aggressive attack to break it loose and remove it. #2. Anything that coats the "stuff" will prolong its life. #3. We see objects due to reflected light; no reflected light and the object is dark. We see colors due to various wave lengths of the reflected light. An object we see as blue is reflection mostly the wave lengths that our eyes and brains interpret as blue. #4. The "stuff" is not blue/red/straw in and of itself. Rather, various thicknesses of coating cause reflectance of various wave lengths and we see them as differing colors. Blued/blacked metal appears dark because the oxide coating absorbs most light and reflects little. Note, the prismatic colors we see from a puddle of water with a bit of oil on top is caused by varying thickness of the oil film. #5. "Stuff" is not photosensitive. It is for sure subject to mechanical wear and most likely subject to chemical attack, possibly airborne trace chemicals. DDA
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The poly I use is a model airplane fuelproof kind. No yellow that I've noticed. For cleaning I hose it down with brake cleaner and then wipe with acetone where I'm gonna spray. No prob with fish eye.
Couple times a year I wipe the whole gun down really well and wax the whole thing with Johnsons Floor Wax. Prolly don't need to do that actually where I live but as a Limey tradition I feel compelled and I know it don't hurt nothing. +1 for Charles. Many years ago Colt recommended Johnson's paste floor wax. I used it for years with complete success. The only fly in the ointment is the remote possibility of trace amounts of acid in it. I switched to Ren wax as soon as I found it. DDA
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To each his own, but my personal experience with case colors: leave them alone. Protective varnish of any kind can peel, and when it does, the case colors go with it. It ain't pretty.
obviously recoating is a simple and easy task
If you use a gun, it gets wear, everywhere. Don't worry about case colors getting worn off as you use your piece. It looks right. And I learned a long time ago to NOT handle the receiver with sweaty, dirty hands, or clean ones for that matter, when handling or carrying.
No it doesn't. It looks like a gun that was not cared for
If it's a safe queen collectable, just keep it away from the sunlight, lightly oiled.
And most certainly properly coated to protect the CC - Personally I have nothing that does not get used. Why anyone would is beyond me. So-called collectible firearms are usually only that in the mind of the owner. Of course, Think/Do as you like.
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No. The oxides are still there, the color just isn't. When I had my Charlin done at Turnbull's, the advice he gave me was to coat them with something.
Best,
Ted I, too, had a long conversation about CC photosensitivity and protection for the coating of "stuff" that makes the colors with Dr. Gaddy. #1. The "stuff" is a very thin coating only loosely bound to the surface of the steel. It does not require aggressive attack to break it loose and remove it. #2. Anything that coats the "stuff" will prolong its life.#3. We see objects due to reflected light; no reflected light and the object is dark. We see colors due to various wave lengths of the reflected light. An object we see as blue is reflection mostly the wave lengths that our eyes and brains interpret as blue. #4. The "stuff" is not blue/red/straw in and of itself. Rather, various thicknesses of coating cause reflectance of various wave lengths and we see them as differing colors. Blued/blacked metal appears dark because the oxide coating absorbs most light and reflects little. Note, the prismatic colors we see from a puddle of water with a bit of oil on top is caused by varying thickness of the oil film. #5. "Stuff" is not photosensitive. It is for sure subject to mechanical wear and most likely subject to chemical attack, possibly airborne trace chemicals. DDA In the matter of case colors the why and mechanism of degradation of the colors is of no interest to me whatsoever. What is of interest is that with a proper and maintained coating the colors do not degrade. TabA/SlotB
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To each his own, but my personal experience with case colors: leave them alone. Protective varnish of any kind can peel, and when it does, the case colors go with it. It ain't pretty.
obviously recoating is a simple and easy task
If you use a gun, it gets wear, everywhere. Don't worry about case colors getting worn off as you use your piece. It looks right. And I learned a long time ago to NOT handle the receiver with sweaty, dirty hands, or clean ones for that matter, when handling or carrying.
No it doesn't. It looks like a gun that was not cared for
If it's a safe queen collectable, just keep it away from the sunlight, lightly oiled.
And most certainly properly coated to protect the CC - Personally I have nothing that does not get used. Why anyone would is beyond me. So-called collectible firearms are usually only that in the mind of the owner. Of course, Think/Do as you like.
JR Looks like case color care is your strong suit, Charles. Thanks for the one-part fact, two-part opinion clarification. JR
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