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You know, you're right Drew! That gun in the pix would have to have a crazy long LOP... or... horrors... he does not have the gun shouldered! That's it! The whole thing is a fraud! The picture is staged. You can't see the stock, and that's intentional! How many times have we seen this photo and not noticed that...

It was fun reading through this old tome.



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Drew: One of the best skeet shots in the world today, Paul Giambrone shoots skeet with an extended left arm almost as exaggerated as Chuchill in the photo. A couple of years ago, he shot 400x400 with a .410. I prefer the Stanbury method, but it sure is hard to argue with Giambrone's success. I've often wondered if that extended forearm helps to keep the gun moving and helps to prevent stopping ones' swing? Giambrone also shoots a fairly high rib gun which goes against 'closer between the hands is better'. Giambrone's stance is not, however, like Churchill, more like the Stanbury stance, but a little crouched.


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Charles Grimm (though obviously staged)



Fred Lord at the Watson Gun Club, Chicago 1905



Matt Dryke's crouch



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I have a 28ga WC Scott with 25" barrels and Churchill rib made for Orvis in the late 70's. It is the one gun that I will never turn loose of. I like the configuration so much that I had my 28ga Dickinson cut to 25".

Some love them some despise them. Im obviously in the love them category. I will say it needs to balance right or they can be too whippy for even my taste.

I say go for it!!


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According to the late "Old Blue eyes" brown suits, regardless of the breasting configuration, are for dorks. A hunting pal has a Churchill XXV with factory extra 28" barrels- he bought it from Kirby Hoyt at the MI UP clays event held Father's Day week-end 2010-- He does a great deal of preserve hunting- fezzant, quail, and chukar-- He used the 25" set one time, over his Kurzhaar "Max", went to the 28" set, and leaves the 25" set in the luggage case--that tells me a great deal. He invited me to a Fall planted pheasant hunt on his club, I took my "Pet" Smith 12 2E 30" barrels, he had the 28" XXV/ Granted, Max is a close tight holding pointing dog, but he killed 7 birds straight with only the first barrel with that "Limey Gun".. RWTF


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Ted- went on a private area farm for feral pigs last year. The owner is a real "rifle nut" in the Elmer keith school- as he was going to AK in the fall, he wanted to test his .416Rigby BA-- I usually use my 30-06 with 180 Grain Core-Lokt's, but tried the M71 Winnie in .348--we shot 3 pigs that am, 2 more in the evening hunt, over about 180 acres of planted farm land and near a feeder, from tree stands-- during the field dressing op- we could see the bullet channel, entrance and exit holes- most impressive. Just wish the ammo for the .348Win was more available. To quote the late Mr. Keith- "You mean it kills them too dead?"" RWTF


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I love my AYA xxv bl, my first sxs I ever bought. I have shot everything with it that flys. It was my go to grouse gun.

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Originally Posted By: Run With The Fox
Ted- went on a private area farm for feral pigs last year. The owner is a real "rifle nut" in the Elmer keith school- as he was going to AK in the fall, he wanted to test his .416Rigby BA-- I usually use my 30-06 with 180 Grain Core-Lokt's, but tried the M71 Winnie in .348--we shot 3 pigs that am, 2 more in the evening hunt, over about 180 acres of planted farm land and near a feeder, from tree stands-- during the field dressing op- we could see the bullet channel, entrance and exit holes- most impressive. Just wish the ammo for the .348Win was more available. To quote the late Mr. Keith- "You mean it kills them too dead?"" RWTF



Fox,

You are replying to me in a post from 2007, talking about rifles, in a post about Churchill 25 tubes?

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OK- let's call it "an oldie but a goodie" -or, deja vu all over again, to quote the late, great Lawrence Berra. Since your late father served in my beloved USMC, I'll trust you not to do a google search on the origin of Mr. Berra's nickname "Yoggi"--

Don't know how I missed the 2007 date of posting in my reply, but a dead pig is a dead pig is a dead pig- and fyiw, I am of the Keithan school when it comes to smacking all game I kill, whether feathered (including barn pigeons) or 4 legged species.

Let me know at your convenience if you know the true origin of Yoggi's moniker-- RWTF


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I dont know anything about anyone with a nickname of Yoggi. I know I have a new-to-me FJ 1200 in the garage that I cant get a license plate or a title for, and it is driving me nuts.

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