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I know what you mean, Shotgun. Self-indictment isn't all that appealing. I used to make an accounting of the stupid things I did by the week; as time goes by it's getting to be a per day thing.

jack

I figured we had a reader that might know more than I did...that's all.
I thought there might be a patend on them.

Since the post was started we've lost a few fingers...and learned that Lowell detests pigeon shooting.....and has refused to discuss why ?

h0meless0ne, detests is such a harsh word - maybe dislikes is a better one.
But you've asked.
So, its living targets in a strange land!

Btw j0e, we won't make fun of any future typos either.

Lowell I hate for you to have to resort to making fun of my spelling.....I figger'd yOu for a smarter guy than that.

So tell us why you dislike shooting at living targets.

I had a look in my library at the weekend for reference to sideclips and patents.I didn't spend a great deal of time on it but I have to admit I found nothing.Somewhere in this old head I seem to think that Tolley had something to do with the subject.The later post on ventilated ribs brought home to me how the shotgun as evolved and how the manufacturers were continually coming up with 'must haves' to continue the flow of orders.Churchill, Cogswell, Westley to name just a few.
Homeless you have certainly opened up a can of worms now I will not rest until I find out who, if anyone did, patented sideclips.
HELP.

I aquired a Purdy a week back from a friend...I had shot the gun before but never really noticed the side clips being there if I did I had forgot about them.
It's seen better days but still a very fine gun...10 gauge 'A' quality Purdy 1879 top lever, hidden third fastener hammer gun with side clips and niceley sleaved 30" Nitro proved for 3 & 1/2" at 4 tons. A poor mans Purdy hammer gun.
I know around 1879 things in the English gun trade were happening fast and furious...after looking at the side clips along with the 1879 production date I just got curriuos.

In Bitkoff cathalog of 1911/12 I found the following fraze, Everybody knows Purdey's bolt and bite and Purdey's Side Clips...
My IMHO, side clips are very bad thing, when you consider to put barrels ON face.

As Geno points out above; I have heard them referred to as "Purdey side clips" for at least 40 years. Whether this means that the Purdey firm was the originator remains to be seen.
Jim

I had another look yesterday, found numerous Purdey's dated 1894 including Earl de Grays hammer guns with sideclips but also found later guns 1916 etc., with and without sideclips.Purdey do not list sideclips in their patents so I guess someone else does.
Who?

Sideclips were invented to address the twisting moment caused by the barrel being fired's position adjacent to the centerline of the shotgun. Every shot produces this twist, eats at the pin ( most commonly on the side fired first), and shortens longevity. In the early days, metallurgy wasn't as advanced as today, and consequently beefier surfaces were a common attempt at slowing wear.
The sideclip acts as a lever to the axis of rotation about the pin, and as it is a long radius away from the point of twist, adds considerable resistance to twisting. Just ask Archimedes.

I have read this repeatedly, seen it posted here and elsewhere, and am quite surprised no one tossed this in 3 pages ago.

Get with it lads, use your A game!