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Gunwolf #494258 11/07/17 09:48 PM
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2-piper, you start them with a flat belt. We would use a flat belt on the farm to run a couple old machines. I watched a 20-40 and a 30-60 being started about 15 years ago up in Canada. You might enjoy these two videos of them starting one and then gang plowing with five of them pulling 60 plus plows. With that Stan could knock off for lunch having plowed for the week. Of course he would need about 15 sons to help him.

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This is an interesting read if you like punt gunning.
http://www.puntgunning.co.uk/home


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Originally Posted By: Stan


How I wish that I could.

There was an article many, many years ago in the Sporting Clays magazine, as I recall, about a punt gunner who claimed to have killed over 1000 ducks with a single shot, on the bay. The gun jumped loose of it's "moorings", recoiled into him, and broke his jaw, knocking him from his punt into the bay. He was rescued by a game warden who went out two mornings later and picked up over 700 ducks that were dead and frozen in the ice. Great story. I wish so much I had saved it.

SRH


Interesting story but when I hear of 700-1000 ducks being killed with one shot, I'm happy their use has been legislated away. Everything about them is the antithesis of what makes hunting interesting to me and how I feel about wildlife.


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Canvasback that was no hunting, that was a man making a living. And what you would call a hunter would bait ducks to concentrate them then take as many a he could. Sportsman hunting as you know it was a fabrication when what had been about feeding your family became a gentlemans sport. Before it was about the bag limit. Just look at some of those old duck hunting photos with 50-100 ducks displayed in them.

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Originally Posted By: Thruxton
This is an interesting read if you like punt gunning.
http://www.puntgunning.co.uk/home


Now that's what I call COMMITMENT! Great read.


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Originally Posted By: KY Jon
Canvasback that was no hunting, that was a man making a living. And what you would call a hunter would bait ducks to concentrate them then take as many a he could. Sportsman hunting as you know it was a fabrication when what had been about feeding your family became a gentlemans sport. Before it was about the bag limit. Just look at some of those old duck hunting photos with 50-100 ducks displayed in them.


Yup, Jon, well familiar with that. I have family photos of a farm wagon piled high with ducks taken in a day's shooting in southern Manitoba at the turn of the last century. When my grandfather and his brothers went shooting from the family farm, it was to fill the larder. I just don't like to romanticize their methods.

Modern slaughterhouses are damn efficient too!

What I did love about the website Thruxton linked us to was the wild eyed fanaticism of the guy building the gun and boat. HE thinks his quest is perfectly reasonable. The craziness of the fact that he built a building in which to build his gun and boat is entirely lost on him. Love people like that.

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KY Jon #494287 11/08/17 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: KY Jon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDs_P-Oz4GY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MwOhNlmUYI


2-piper, you start them with a flat belt. We would use a flat belt on the farm to run a couple old machines. I watched a 20-40 and a 30-60 being started about 15 years ago up in Canada. You might enjoy these two videos of them starting one and then gang plowing with five of them pulling 60 plus plows. With that Stan could knock off for lunch having plowed for the week. Of course he would need about 15 sons to help him.


A bit off topic but I have been spending some time recently on the 400 acre estate of the Massey family of Massey-Ferguson. Main house, 9 different free standing homes for the staff, generating dam, lit & paved runway with hanger, stables etc etc etc. Built in the 1920's. Current owner is a polo fanatic. Anyway, there clearly was good money to be made in the farm machinery business in the first half of the last century.


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I, too, enjoy hearing about those with unbridled enthusiasm and The Knack to do something which many would think not too terribly important, but on the other hand, what many folks do is not too terribly important, but not nearly as much fun. Gil

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Jon;
Sure enjoyed those videos. What I saw in starting the 30-60 though was the man put his foot on a spoke of the fly wheel & rolled it over, didn't see any flat belt involved. I have hand cranked a model D JD with a 6 3/4" bore by 7" stroke for 501 CID. Unless your name is Hercules you'll open the compression relief valves. I feel sure the Rumley had them also & of course it had a much larger flywheel for better leverage. The Rumley had higher compression ratio than would normally burn kerosene so they had a water injection system to cool the fuel entering the cylinder. Love to hear those ole 2 cylinders with opposed crank run, especially under a good load. My greatest remembrance of them is of course the John Deere's which were built from the 1920's up to 1960.
PS; For some of you nit pickers we are talking "Double Barrels" here.


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Wouldn't do for me to get my hands on a real punt gun for awhile, as much corn as I've got in the bins. Temptation might just get the best of me.

SRH


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