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The person or people behind this outfit seem to know classic guns and have good sense of humor. Prices also seem fair. Looks like good place to go shopping for vintage European guns. Our resident double gun expert has just discovered Kirby's site. Well done JM. Thank you for the review. I'm sure Kirby will be pleased to know his business seems to have passed muster with you.
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A historic, "Eureka" moment in our hobby.
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The person or people behind this outfit seem to know classic guns and have good sense of humor. Prices also seem fair. Looks like good place to go shopping for vintage European guns. Our resident double gun expert has just discovered Kirby's site. Well done JM. Thank you for the review. I'm sure Kirby will be pleased to know his business seems to have passed muster with you. No, one of our esteemed members Run With The Fox has mentioned this site long time ago. I have no problem giving credit where credit is due.
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You also have no problem telling us that you bought guns that were actually on layaway, and then backed out of the commitment. I have developed "sweet tooth" for police shotguns. I found another Police Magnum with six shot tube, XS frond sight and Scattergun Technologies rear ghost ring. I wish I could stop buying them, but I can't. I do not know how to stop myself. Still looking for perfect classic SxS for myself. Shopping for one is fun, but once I find exactly what I need at fair price I will be done with buying double guns unless I find rifle in calibers like 7x57R, 7x65R, 9,3x54R, .30-40 Krag, .30-30, or .303 British. Post #476286 3/27/17 At one time or another but not at same time I had several guns on layaway. A 20ga Ithaca NID, Ithaca Deluxe Solid Rib ca.1955, 16ga Browning Citori, Remington 870 Police Magnum. I have chosen not to complete sale on any of those. . I had bunch of guns I put money on but found something different I liked down the road. There was a Perazzi O/U, Ithaca NID, Ithaca 37 Supreme solid rib, Remington 879 Police Magnum, Browning Citori. I have now cured that problem and no longer put stuff on layaway because it does not work for me. I now put stuff on 24 hour hold. If a man can't make their mind in 24 hours they never will.
Oops, I forgot. You can add 16ga Ugartechea BLE 25" with Churchill "triangular rib" to the five day hold status line. My friend from work ended up with that gun.
I'm well regarded as I have been a good customer since 1999. Jagermeister's Gun Buying Fantasy-- http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=464153&page=1I have no problem giving discredit where discredit is due.
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The Manufrance 1930 catalog specifies that the Supra barrel is intended for under 16 meter (50ft) shotshell shooting.
It also says that it is very accurate with slugs. Actually they mention their slugs.
I am not sure how this would work with modern slugs.
As for woodcocks, they are migratory birds and show up in November/December IIRC. They would be most everywhere, but are quite rare now. I have only seen one.
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There might be pumpkin ball slugs available somewhere in the world, but, I've never seen them. The Foster type slug has been in use for a very long time, here in the states, and in Europe.
Even if a gun with a Raye barrel didn't have the "Non Pour La Balle" marking, I'd be very hesitant to try it.
The last time I was in St. Etienne, a two man shop, using an ancient American Cincinati lathe, was the only place left cutting Raye barrels for the trade. The operator suggested to me that there were better options for using slugs than a Raye barrel.
I just put a photo of a nice, fat, European woodcock up in the hunting pictures thread.
It was taken in Sweden. I don't doubt they are rare, today.
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European woodcock may be rare in parts of their historic range, but in other places they migrate in populations sufficient to attract hunters. Illegal Italian Woodcock Recipe. Most likely illegal not because of official position that it is not hygienic, but too many Italian chefs were killed immediately after telling customers what they just ate. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcl-ZoFwJXYWoodcock hunting in Scotland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bekS4BUCitkFrance: http://www.gourmetfly.com/Huntw.htm
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In Sweden woodcock is plentyful at times and scarce the next day. They are impossible to figure out. The birds pass us in the spring on their way to Balticum and Russia and then in the fall on their way back to France, Italy, Ireland and Great Britain. After a frosty november night there can be lots of woodcock where there were none the day before. In Denmark, our neighbor country, they have a word for it, "sneppefald". The translation would be "Woodcock rain".
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The Manufrance 1930 catalog specifies that the Supra barrel is intended for under 16 meter (50ft) shotshell shooting.
It also says that it is very accurate with slugs. Actually they mention their slugs.
I am not sure how this would work with modern slugs.
As for woodcocks, they are migratory birds and show up in November/December IIRC. They would be most everywhere, but are quite rare now. I have only seen one.
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Not at all rare in Scotland in late Nov/Dec. I've shot driven birds over there several times, and we always see some on drives. I missed a perfect opportunity when I misidentified one until it was too late. Stomping my feet, swearing at myself . . . and the young lady picker-up behind me, with her spaniel, was having a good laugh. On another drive, I had 2 or 3 pass by. Would've been good chances, but they were too low. The Beaters' Protective Association says those are shots you don't take. Have also stood outside by the light of the moon and attempted to pass shoot them. Other members of our group have scored that way. I've never had a shot at one.
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Speaking of woodcock, I missed one this afternoon. I blame the gun... And a picture of the betrayer... 
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