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Larry, I had an SKB Royal about 15- 20 years ago when I was just starting out with SxS's. It was a double-triggered, non-ejector gun with a silver receiver and blued floorplate. If I remember correctly it was a pistol grip/splinter combo. Might have had a slight beavertail. I shot it pretty well and still enjoy thinking about a pheasant hunt with Geoff Roznak. We were hunting in an area west of Chippewa Falls and just walking and not really ready when a rooster blasted up to our surprise. Geoff knows me as a somewhat deliberate shooter at sporting clays (and he's a fast SC shooter) and he was a little flabbergasted by how quick I popped that rooster. That was the nature of that particular SKB Royal. It came up and on fast; instant correct sight picture. Probably not the best for long crossing shots tho. I got a little spooked by the gun when I learned there were no parts to be had and if a firing pin broke it would take someone to make a hammer and pin as they were all in one (I was told), but it was worth owning it for that one rooster with Geoff!

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
I have only seen pics of couple online. First was some months ago at place called A-Coin Stamp Gallery in Fl which I check periodically because they often have odd guns I might be interested in buying.


You aren't really interested in buying any doubles Jagermeister. You don't own even one lousy double gun. You are only interested in attempting to convince us that you are something or someone that you really are not.

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I had bunch of guns I put money on but found something different I liked down the road. There was a Perazzi O/U, Ithaca NID, Ithaca 37 Supreme solid rib, Remington 879 Police Magnum, Browning Citori. I have now cured that problem and no longer put stuff on layaway because it does not work for me. I now put stuff on 24 hour hold. If a man can't make their mind in 24 hours they never will.



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At one time or another but not at same time I had several guns on layaway. A 20ga Ithaca NID, Ithaca Deluxe Solid Rib ca.1955, 16ga Browning Citori, Remington 870 Police Magnum. I have chosen not to complete sale on any of those.


So tell us Jagermeister, what is it that makes a guy who doesn't own even one lousy double act as if he knows so much about them? You probably haven't done any more than slobber and drool on them at your local gun shop. I'll bet the guys behind the counter there really love to see you walk in the door.


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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
I had bunch of guns I put money on but found something different I liked down the road. There was a Perazzi O/U, Ithaca NID, Ithaca 37 Supreme solid rib, Remington 879 Police Magnum, Browning Citori. I have now cured that problem and no longer put stuff on layaway because it does not work for me. I now put stuff on 24 hour hold. If a man can't make their mind in 24 hours they never will.


I'll bet the guys behind the counter there really love to see you walk in the door. [/quote]

Oops, I forgot. You can add 16ga Ugartechea BLE 25" with Churchill "triangular rib" to the five day hold status line. My friend from work ended up with that gun.

I'm well regarded as I have been a good customer since 1999.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister

Oops, I forgot. You can add 16ga Ugartechea BLE 25" with Churchill "triangular rib" to the five day hold status line. My friend from work ended up with that gun.

I'm well regarded as I have been a good customer since 1999.


It's pretty sad that you can't find even one lousy double gun to follow through on a sale.

It's even more sad that you don't have earn enough money to actually purchase a gun without having to put it on hold or on Layaway. I guess that Barack Obama "Hope and Change" didn't work out so well for you.

It's even more pathetic that you have lied to us by telling us that you bought guns, and then backed out of the deals without ever taking possession.

It was especially pathetic for you to lie to us about how well the recoil pad on that Remington 870 pump police magnum worked when you never actually took possession. I guess they all work pretty well when you shoulder a gun at the gun shop and say "Bang Bang!" Well, with a pump, I guess you would say "Bang, shucka, Bang, shucka, Bang, shucka".


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It has been glorious, but I have four permanent residents as we speak and do not want to acquire another. I do not want to accumulate too many guns. The .22 I have on extra long rental will go back after some 1500 rounds I have are spent. At 50 to 100 per week that is quite a long time.


You own (or claim to own) four guns and rent a cheap Chinese .22 and call yourself a great customer since 1999? They must be making a killing off of you on cheap Chinese .22 rifle rental fees.


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Getting back to topic on hand reason I mentioned 30"/76mm SKB is because it had stock design similar to Royal Deluxe seen at Artemis. What makes older fixed choke SKB SxS guns nice are light weight barrels making stock style largely irrelevant. The Royal Deluxe is seen with plain blonde walnut wood which is very light to begin with.

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How would you know that Jagermeister? You don't own any of those guns, and the closest you ever came to shooting one is by bothering the salesmen at your local gun store so you could slobber and drool on one they had in stock.

By the way, plain blonde walnut is often referred to as French Walnut, and it can be very dense and heavy despite the light color. I know this because I have guns stocked with it, and have at least four two-piece French Walnut blanks in my inventory. For a guy who acts as if he knows everything about doubles... even though you don't own even one... you sure do spout a lot of incorrect information.


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Originally Posted By: keith


I know this because I have guns stocked with it, and have at least four two-piece French Walnut blanks in my inventory. For a guy who acts as if he knows everything about doubles... even though you don't own even one... you sure do spout a lot of incorrect information.


How do you know the Walnut blanks are French? Did you fall those trees yourself and cut them into blanks? crazy Are the guns so stocked made in St.Etienne? Gee, I didn't know you were so diversified and accepting of French products.

I do not want people to think that I'm cruel and unhelpful fella. Here is what could be considered near mid-grade Walnut grown somewhere in Northern France.....or Southern England smirk .....The gun is from the shop of well-respected gunsmith in Paris, France,....

From shop of Charles Francois Galand.......

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Yes, one gun I own is French, but it isn't a shotgun. The Louis Christophe .450 BPE double rifle with very light colored wood I recently bought is Belgian, and Leige gunmakers used a lot of French Walnut. I did not cut down the trees which the French Walnut blanks I bought came from. Technically, the typically light colored walnut we call French is actually Juglans Regia. But many of these trees which were grown in France, or are descendants of trees grown in France, will exhibit a very light coloration compared to English or Turkish cultivars... without being light in weight or density. By the way, A lot of graded L.C. Smith guns were stocked in French walnut, and many unfired specimens still appear rather light despite many decades of aging and finish oxidation.

Now that I have answered your questions, it is your turn to explain why a guy who doesn't own one lousy double gun spends so much time regurgitating things he has no actual experience with on a Double Gun forum? Then you can also explain why you feel the pathetic need to lie to us about the guns you actually have, and about your reloading and hunting activities. Then, considering that fact, you can tell us why we should pay attention to anything you post here. I do not care to click on your link. Considering how dishonest you have been with us, I'm concerned that it might either contain a virus or be some of your gay porn.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Erickson
Larry, I had an SKB Royal about 15- 20 years ago when I was just starting out with SxS's. It was a double-triggered, non-ejector gun with a silver receiver and blued floorplate. If I remember correctly it was a pistol grip/splinter combo. Might have had a slight beavertail. I shot it pretty well and still enjoy thinking about a pheasant hunt with Geoff Roznak. We were hunting in an area west of Chippewa Falls and just walking and not really ready when a rooster blasted up to our surprise. Geoff knows me as a somewhat deliberate shooter at sporting clays (and he's a fast SC shooter) and he was a little flabbergasted by how quick I popped that rooster. That was the nature of that particular SKB Royal. It came up and on fast; instant correct sight picture. Probably not the best for long crossing shots tho. I got a little spooked by the gun when I learned there were no parts to be had and if a firing pin broke it would take someone to make a hammer and pin as they were all in one (I was told), but it was worth owning it for that one rooster with Geoff!


Dave, I don't know the relationship between a Royal and a Royal Deluxe. I've seen a few Royals. I think they were later guns made for the European market. The Royal Deluxe, which came standard with a pistol grip and beavertail, seemed to have the American market as its target. (And was offered in Stoeger's Shooters Bible.) I haven't seen a Royal in some time, but as I recall, the basic features--such as engraving and checkering--were of similar quality to the SKB's imported by Ithaca. In other words . . . good, solid guns, but built to a much lower price point than the Royal Deluxe, which has much finer checkering, nicer wood, and profuse engraving. I thought about buying a Royal once or twice, but I think they were all 12's. Might well have bought one as a grouse, woodcock and quail gun in 20ga.

$450 bought a whole lot of gun back in 1960-61. (A little over a decade later, I bought a new Ithaca SKB 150 for $162. That was military Rod & Gun Club price, but even at standard retail, they were far less expensive than the Royal Deluxe was, 10 years earlier--which likely explains why we don't see very many of them.)

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Our late friend Sargent Mostleller shipped back a number of higher grade, double trigger SKB's from his tours of Japan.
No idea what happened to them along with his Foxes. We "traded" on a Fox but e did not live to complete the transaction.

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