Thanks for the suggestions. The two guns I was bidding on both went for more than my bid. One for a single pound and the other for two pounds extra. Don't know if I should be glad or sad. I have been a brides made so often lately that I have rice in my hair. If I bid 205 someone bids 207 on a sealed bid, if I bid 2600 on a normal auction it goes for 3500 after an estimate of 1800-2000. Oh well half the fun is in the trying, then the work begins.